We have a production Sun E220 with VxVM installed and the license
report shows:

Node Lock Type = (Hostid and Architecture ID)

I'm trying to have an Ultra 10 in the lab run VxVM with the same
license (I hacked the hostid to match E220), but not sure what
Architecture ID really means. Will VxVM sense that the hardware is
different and prevent install? I'm only planning to test a few VxVM
utilities and don't want to screw around with production server.

Thanks
Roger

unix wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to have an Ultra 10 in the lab run VxVM with the same
> license (I hacked the hostid to match E220), but not sure what
> Architecture ID really means. Will VxVM sense that the hardware is
> different and prevent install? I'm only planning to test a few VxVM
> utilities and don't want to screw around with production server.
> 

This isn't criticism but I am just curious. With Sun's free 
offering/bundling of Online Disksuite and ZFS, would it be necessary 
ever to pay Veritas for a volume manager?


-- 
Godlessness, torture and fornication are the hallmarks of our great(sic) 
society.

On Apr 9, 9:54 am, "unix" <unix...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> We have a production Sun E220 with VxVM installed and the license
> report shows:
>
> Node Lock Type = (Hostid and Architecture ID)
>
> I'm trying to have an Ultra 10 in the lab run VxVM with the same
> license (I hacked the hostid to match E220), but not sure what
> Architecture ID really means. Will VxVM sense that the hardware is
> different and prevent install? I'm only planning to test a few VxVM
> utilities and don't want to screw around with production server.
>
> Thanks
> Roger

I am not encouraging the use of a duplicate license but simply trying
to answer the question.
In order to use that same license, the host ID and architecture must
be the same or lesser tier server.  Also, it depends on the vxvm
version.  4.1 and later are not node lock, so the only dependency are
tiers.

On Apr 9, 12:23 pm, Mikail Dellovich <f...@foo.com> wrote:
> unix wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to have an Ultra 10 in the lab run VxVM with the same
> > license (I hacked the hostid to match E220), but not sure what
> > Architecture ID really means. Will VxVM sense that the hardware is
> > different and prevent install? I'm only planning to test a few VxVM
> > utilities and don't want to screw around with production server.
>
> This isn't criticism but I am just curious. With Sun's free
> offering/bundling of Online Disksuite and ZFS, would it be necessary
> ever to pay Veritas for a volume manager?
>
> --
> Godlessness, torture and fornication are the hallmarks of our great(sic)
> society.

Two different animals. Aside from many bells and whistles you get with
Veritas offerings (VCS, DB edition for Oracle, etc), the command set
is very different. I need to simulate VxVM utilities in a test
environment. The right way is obviously is to have same OS and same
packages.

On Apr 9, 1:36 pm, "Adam Sanders" <sanders.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 9, 9:54 am, "unix" <unix...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > We have a production Sun E220 with VxVM installed and the license
> > report shows:
>
> > Node Lock Type = (Hostid and Architecture ID)
>
> > I'm trying to have an Ultra 10 in the lab run VxVM with the same
> > license (I hacked the hostid to match E220), but not sure what
> > Architecture ID really means. Will VxVM sense that the hardware is
> > different and prevent install? I'm only planning to test a few VxVM
> > utilities and don't want to screw around with production server.
>
> > Thanks
> > Roger
>
> I am not encouraging the use of a duplicate license but simply trying
> to answer the question.
> In order to use that same license, the host ID and architecture must
> be the same or lesser tier server.  Also, it depends on the vxvm
> version.  4.1 and later are not node lock, so the only dependency are
> tiers.

I have version 3.5.  On the production box it says :
PERMANENT_NODE_LOCK.

On 2007-04-09, unix <unixzip@yahoo.com> wrote:
> We have a production Sun E220 with VxVM installed and the license
> report shows:
>
> Node Lock Type = (Hostid and Architecture ID)
>
> I'm trying to have an Ultra 10 in the lab run VxVM with the same
> license (I hacked the hostid to match E220), but not sure what
> Architecture ID really means. Will VxVM sense that the hardware is
> different and prevent install? I'm only planning to test a few VxVM
> utilities and don't want to screw around with production server.

Well, you shouldn't even be thinking about this, particularly not in
public.

Anyway, I seem to remember that there is a free version of VxVM named
Veritas Storage Foundation Basic since the last year or so, which might
keep you honest.

Ceri
-- 
That must be wonderful!  I don't understand it at all.
                                                  -- Moliere

On Apr 9, 12:36 pm, "Adam Sanders" <sanders.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 9, 9:54 am, "unix" <unix...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > We have a production Sun E220 with VxVM installed and the license
> > report shows:
>
> > Node Lock Type = (Hostid and Architecture ID)
>
> > I'm trying to have an Ultra 10 in the lab run VxVM with the same
> > license (I hacked the hostid to match E220), but not sure what
> > Architecture ID really means. Will VxVM sense that the hardware is
> > different and prevent install? I'm only planning to test a few VxVM
> > utilities and don't want to screw around with production server.
>
> > Thanks
> > Roger
>
> I am not encouraging the use of a duplicate license but simply trying
> to answer the question.
> In order to use that same license, the host ID and architecture must
> be the same or lesser tier server.  Also, it depends on the vxvm
> version.  4.1 and later are not node lock, so the only dependency are
> tiers.

You can easily check the licensing w/o risking impact to the box where
you want to install.  Just install the VRTSvlic package and then apply
the license with vxlicinst [-k].  If it doesn't work, remove the
VRTSvlic package.  If it is accepted, run the the CPI installer.  The
installer will not complete if the license is invalid.

In article <131kq7at4cnvrd7@news.supernews.com>,
Mikail Dellovich  <foo@foo.com> wrote:
>unix wrote:
>> 
>This isn't criticism but I am just curious. With Sun's free 
>offering/bundling of Online Disksuite and ZFS, would it be necessary 
>ever to pay Veritas for a volume manager?

And, with Storage Foundation Basic, why would you bother with SVM and ZFS
(ZFS is fine, but SVM? Are you serious??)?

Remember, SF Basic is free, too.

-tom

-- 

"You can only be -so- accurate with a claw-hammer."  --me

In article <1176130451.108448.251120@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
unix <unixzip@yahoo.com> wrote:
>We have a production Sun E220 with VxVM installed and the license
>report shows:
>
>Node Lock Type = (Hostid and Architecture ID)
>
>I'm trying to have an Ultra 10 in the lab run VxVM with the same
>license (I hacked the hostid to match E220), but not sure what
>Architecture ID really means. Will VxVM sense that the hardware is
>different and prevent install? I'm only planning to test a few VxVM
>utilities and don't want to screw around with production server.

Well, if the Ultra 10 is a test system and why not just try it and see
what happens. It's not like the VxVM software is going to render the
box a smoking pile of slag if it doesn't like the key.

-tom

-- 

"You can only be -so- accurate with a claw-hammer."  --me

In comp.unix.solaris unix <unixzip@yahoo.com> wrote:
> We have a production Sun E220 with VxVM installed and the license
> report shows:
> 
> Node Lock Type = (Hostid and Architecture ID)
> 
> I'm trying to have an Ultra 10 in the lab run VxVM with the same
> license (I hacked the hostid to match E220), but not sure what
> Architecture ID really means. Will VxVM sense that the hardware is
> different and prevent install? I'm only planning to test a few VxVM
> utilities and don't want to screw around with production server.

When you install VxVM, it should (or at least it used to) set itself up
with a free temporary license key, good for 30 days. If it doesn't, then
you can phone your Sun/Veritas provider and get a demo license key for
free which does the same thing.

Colin

In comp.unix.solaris Thomas H Jones II <ferric@xanthia.com> wrote:
> In article <131kq7at4cnvrd7@news.supernews.com>,
> Mikail Dellovich  <foo@foo.com> wrote:
>>unix wrote:
>>> 
>>This isn't criticism but I am just curious. With Sun's free 
>>offering/bundling of Online Disksuite and ZFS, would it be necessary 
>>ever to pay Veritas for a volume manager?
> 
> And, with Storage Foundation Basic, why would you bother with SVM and ZFS
> (ZFS is fine, but SVM? Are you serious??)?
> 
> Remember, SF Basic is free, too.

Have you actually installed the SF Basic? It's a complete and utter disaster!
After dealing with VxVM for many years, every version and patch level from
3.0.4 onwards, SF Basic was the first one that I was unable to get running
on a test system. This was a fresh install of Solaris with the full/OEM
bundle, and under Solaris 8, 9, or 10, the SF Basic installer blew itself
up, leaving half-installed and unusable crap behind.

As near as I can see, SF Basic as a free product is Symantec's attempt at
convincing everyone to stop using VxVM products, so they can kill off the
line.

Colin

On Apr 9, 9:54 am, "unix" <unix...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to have an Ultra 10 in the lab run VxVM with the same
> license (I hacked the hostid to match E220), but not sure what
> Architecture ID really means. Will VxVM sense that the hardware is
> different and prevent install? I'm only planning to test a few VxVM
> utilities and don't want to screw around with production server.

If it's just a lab scenario, ask your salesperson for a 60-day demo
license.  It fully enables the product for 60 days.

On Apr 9, 9:41 pm, fer...@xanthia.com (Thomas H Jones II) wrote:
> In article <1176130451.108448.251...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,

> Well, if the Ultra 10 is a test system and why not just try it and see
> what happens. It's not like the VxVM software is going to render the
> box a smoking pile of slag if it doesn't like the key.

No, you need to have encapsulated the system disks for it do to that.

--tim

(This is actually an answer (in light disguise) to another article you
posted in this thread, I'm just attaching it to the wrong branch to
put you off the scent & generally cause confusion, it being Friday
afternoon and the sun over the yard arm (well, it's foggy here, but it
would be over the yard arm if we could see it, especially since we had
it (the arm, not the sun) lowered).)