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pdf file types?

I work with a new Kubuntusystem and when I make a pdf
file out of a doc (using "print to file"), other people
whom I send it to say they can't read it. I can. I
tried to print it as a postscript and convert that to
pdf, same result.

I thought pdf is sort of universal but it seems not.
What can be causing this? My wife works with Windows,
and can convert my docs to pdfs that others can read.
So what does Linux do differently?

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In article <mbsiej$hfq$2@dont-email.me>, dieterhansbritz@gmail.com 
says...
 
> I thought pdf is sort of universal but it seems not.

It is, but consumption of damaged or invalid PDF files varies 
considerably. Some tools (eg Acrobat) will open very nearly anything so 
long as its not totally borked, other tools (eg Ghostscript may or may 
not work and will give a peck of warnings, some simply give up.

There are (at the time of writing) 8 backwardly compatible versions of 
PDF from 1.0 to 1.7 (and the standard ISO version which is, essentially 
1.7) as well as several 'extensions' from Adobe which are yet to be 
adopted officially. There are also several specialist types of PDF file 
which are 100% valid PDF, but are specifically limited in particular 
ways. For example PDF/A (Archive) insists that all fonts be embedded.
 
> What can be causing this?

Hard to say without seeing an example. Can you make one publicly 
available ?


> My wife works with Windows,
> and can convert my docs to pdfs that others can read.
> So what does Linux do differently?

Clearly it uses a different tool to do the conversion. You don't say 
what application you or your wife are using. The Operating System has 
very little to do with the creation of the PDF file, its the application 
and possibly supporting applications that make all the difference.

Also, its not 'Linux' doing things differently its your particular 
flavour of Linux, and it may well depenend on exactly how the system is 
configured, and how you are using it. I don't know how KUbuntu is built, 
nor what application you are using to create the original document. It 
may be that the application (eg LibreOffice or OpenOffice) can create 
the PDF file itself.

However you do say you are using 'print to file', so probably you are 
using CUPS. Depending again on the application and how you have CUPS 
configured this could be using Poppler or Ghostscript (or potentially 
some other component) to create the PDF file. If your application 
started by printing to a PostScript file, as is often the case, then the 
chances are that you are using Ghostscript. But CUPS contains a chain of 
filters, so its entirely possible something modified the file 
afterwards.

I presume that when people say they 'can't read it' they mean they can't 
open the file, rather than, say, the text is scrambled or illegible ?

What OS are those people on and what application are they using to open 
the PDF file ?


I realise this isn't much help, but its usually impossible to give 
advice without seeing an example of the problem. If you can supply an 
example of a file which doesn't work, then it may be possible to be more 
specific.


			Ken
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ken
2/16/2015 3:58:10 PM
On 2015-02-16 16:27, Dieter Britz wrote:
> I work with a new Kubuntusystem and when I make a pdf
> file out of a doc (using "print to file"),
>

Many applications create a PostScript file, not PDF. Install ps2pdf and 
convert those files to PDF. Some application such as Firefox have both 
options PDF and PS.

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V. Subhash
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V
2/20/2015 10:30:30 AM
On 2015-02-20 16:00, V. Subhash wrote:
> On 2015-02-16 16:27, Dieter Britz wrote:
>> I work with a new Kubuntusystem and when I make a pdf
>> file out of a doc (using "print to file"),
>>
>
> Many applications create a PostScript file, not PDF. Install ps2pdf and
> convert those files to PDF. Some application such as Firefox have both
> options PDF and PS.
>

I posted it too soon.

The fonts that you are using in the originally have to become subset 
embedded in the PDF for it to be viewable in other platforms.

Your PDFs are probably getting created without font embedding. Your PDF 
viewer will have a tab or dialog that will tell if the fonts are embedded.

Another reason for failure could be OTF fonts. Many PDF creators 
(including OpenOffice/LibreOffice) and viewers can't handle OTF 
properly. You might do well if you can swap your OTF font files with TTF 
alternatives and then refreshing your cache.



-- 
V. Subhash
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V
2/20/2015 11:31:23 AM
On 02/16/2015 10:57 AM, Dieter Britz wrote:
> I work with a new Kubuntusystem and when I make a pdf file out of
> a doc (using "print to file"),

You don't say what software you are using to do this.
LibreOffice? KWriter? AbiWord? Or something else?

> other people whom I send it to say they can't read it. I can. I
> tried to print it as a postscript and convert that to pdf, same
> result.

Many software products create low-quality PDFs or PDFs with missing
features like failing to embed fonts.

> I thought pdf is sort of universal but it seems not.

Correctly-generated PDF is indeed fairly universal.

> What can be causing this?

Bad software.

> My wife works with Windows, and can convert my docs to pdfs that 
> others can read.

What software is she using? Word?

> So what does Linux do differently?

Nothing. It's not Linux, it's the software you are using.

///Peter


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Peter
2/25/2015 11:12:26 PM
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