Should one code \dots differently when using it to indicate omitted 
words within a sentence (i.e, the \dots comes between two words), as 
compared with using them to indicate one or more entire omitted 
sentences?

That is, in the first case, should there be a space or no space after 
the final word of the included material and before the \dots?  In the 
second case, should there be a space between the period ending the 
preceding sentence and the \dots?

Does one ever put a "slash space" before or after the \dots?

On Feb 2, 4:01=A0pm, AES <sieg...@stanford.edu> wrote:
> Should one code \dots differently when using it to indicate omitted
> words within a sentence (i.e, the \dots comes between two words), as
> compared with using them to indicate one or more entire omitted
> sentences?
>
> That is, in the first case, should there be a space or no space after
> the final word of the included material and before the \dots? =A0In the
> second case, should there be a space between the period ending the
> preceding sentence and the \dots?
>
> Does one ever put a "slash space" before or after the \dots?

Bringhurst in his "The Elements of Typographic Style" (v. 3.1, pp.
82--83) suggests that (for English) there should be a word space
before and after ellipsis if it occurs within the sentence, i.e.,
between two words. However, if it occurs at the end of a sentence,
then the space before the beginning of ellipsis is eliminated and a
fourth dot (the period) is used after ellipsis (without any space
between the ellipsis and the period). However, I am not sure that
ellipsis by itself can be an indication of whether the missing words
are within one sentence or from more than one sentence. I would think
that as long as ellipsis comes between two words, it needs word space
on either side.

Tariq

On 02/02/11 21:55, Tariq wrote:
> On Feb 2, 4:01�pm, AES<sieg...@stanford.edu>  wrote:
>> Should one code \dots differently when using it to indicate omitted
>> words within a sentence (i.e, the \dots comes between two words), as
>> compared with using them to indicate one or more entire omitted
>> sentences?
>>
>> That is, in the first case, should there be a space or no space after
>> the final word of the included material and before the \dots? �In the
>> second case, should there be a space between the period ending the
>> preceding sentence and the \dots?
>>
>> Does one ever put a "slash space" before or after the \dots?
>
> Bringhurst in his "The Elements of Typographic Style" (v. 3.1, pp.
> 82--83) suggests that (for English) there should be a word space
> before and after ellipsis if it occurs within the sentence, i.e.,
> between two words.

It is also common editorial practice to enclose word ellipsis in square 
brackets [...] like that.

> However, if it occurs at the end of a sentence,
> then the space before the beginning of ellipsis is eliminated and a
> fourth dot (the period) is used after ellipsis (without any space
> between the ellipsis and the period).

Some publishers (IMHO rightly) refuse to do this, and allow a terminal 
ellipsis without a trailing period.

> However, I am not sure that
> ellipsis by itself can be an indication of whether the missing words
> are within one sentence or from more than one sentence. I would think
> that as long as ellipsis comes between two words, it needs word space
> on either side.

Definitely. For longer chasms, I have seen the notation $^3$[\dots] to 
mean "three words omitted here". Perhaps one could use [\dots]$^5$ to 
mean "five sentences omitted here". The experts on this are probably to 
be found on the HUMANIST or TEI-L mailing lists.

///Peter

On Feb 2, 6:10=A0pm, Peter Flynn <peter.n...@m.silmaril.ie> wrote:
> On 02/02/11 21:55, Tariq wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 2, 4:01 pm, AES<sieg...@stanford.edu> =A0wrote:
> >> Should one code \dots differently when using it to indicate omitted
> >> words within a sentence (i.e, the \dots comes between two words), as
> >> compared with using them to indicate one or more entire omitted
> >> sentences?
>
> >> That is, in the first case, should there be a space or no space after
> >> the final word of the included material and before the \dots? In the
> >> second case, should there be a space between the period ending the
> >> preceding sentence and the \dots?
>
> >> Does one ever put a "slash space" before or after the \dots?
>
> > Bringhurst in his "The Elements of Typographic Style" (v. 3.1, pp.
> > 82--83) suggests that (for English) there should be a word space
> > before and after ellipsis if it occurs within the sentence, i.e.,
> > between two words.
>
> It is also common editorial practice to enclose word ellipsis in square
> brackets [...] like that.
>
> > However, if it occurs at the end of a sentence,
> > then the space before the beginning of ellipsis is eliminated and a
> > fourth dot (the period) is used after ellipsis (without any space
> > between the ellipsis and the period).
>
> Some publishers (IMHO rightly) refuse to do this, and allow a terminal
> ellipsis without a trailing period.
>
> > However, I am not sure that
> > ellipsis by itself can be an indication of whether the missing words
> > are within one sentence or from more than one sentence. I would think
> > that as long as ellipsis comes between two words, it needs word space
> > on either side.
>
> Definitely. For longer chasms, I have seen the notation $^3$[\dots] to
> mean "three words omitted here". Perhaps one could use [\dots]$^5$ to
> mean "five sentences omitted here". The experts on this are probably to
> be found on the HUMANIST or TEI-L mailing lists.
>
> ///Peter

Peter, thanks for pointing out this. I have not seen it but when
writing my earlier response, I was thinking on somewhat similar lines.
But, again, one needs to add something more to the ellipsis to show
this. Use of pure ellipsis does not tell the difference between
elision of one or more words/sentences. Regards,

Tariq

On Feb 2, 3:01=A0pm, AES <sieg...@stanford.edu> wrote:
> Should one code \dots differently when using it to indicate omitted
> words within a sentence (i.e, the \dots comes between two words), as
> compared with using them to indicate one or more entire omitted
> sentences?
>
> That is, in the first case, should there be a space or no space after
> the final word of the included material and before the \dots? =A0In the
> second case, should there be a space between the period ending the
> preceding sentence and the \dots?
>
> Does one ever put a "slash space" before or after the \dots?

I have for several years used centered dots $\cdots$ for an elispsis
because it
looks better, in my opinion, at the end of a sentence where it is
clearly distinguished
from the sentence-ending period.

\newcommand{\lips}{$\cdots$}

For omissions of more substantial blocks of text, like whole
paragraphs, I follow the
convention in legal writing of indicating the omission with a line of
four centered
asterisks.  But this may not be acceptable in other forms of writing.

\newcommand{\stars}{\begin{center}%
  \parbox[s]{20em}{\hfil * \hfil * \hfil *\hfil *}%
  \end{center}}

Regards,

On 02/02/11 21:01, AES wrote:
[...]
> Does one ever put a "slash space" before or after the \dots?

Good point. No, if you want a space, use a tie~\dots so that you won't 
ever get an orphaned ellipsis at the beginning of a line.

///Peter