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#### joke: LaTeX Error: \Begin{document} ended by \end{document}.

\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
\def\else{Ha! Ha!}
\end{document}

Hello!

When running the example above, I get the following message:

LaTeX Error: \Begin{document} ended by \end{document}.

Well. OK. Why is this an error?

Regards

Ulrich


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"Ulrich Diez" <ulrich.diez@alumni.uni-tuebingen.de> writes:

> \documentclass{article}
> \begin{document}
>   \def\else{Ha! Ha!}
> \end{document}
>
> Hello!
>
> When running the example above, I get the following message:
>
> LaTeX Error: \Begin{document} ended by \end{document}.
>
> Well. OK. Why is this an error?

Because you broke LaTeX.
Use \newcommand\else{Oops} and find out.

Hell, you get bogus "Extra }" errors from fragile commands in moving
arguments, without even breaking LaTeX itself.

Some other attractive command names are \box, \output, \above, \count,
\day, \if, \mark, \number, \over, \read, ... all of which are fundamental
TeX commands, used internally.

--
Donald Arseneau                          asnd@triumf.ca

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asnd (4601)
2/23/2005 6:04:26 AM
Donald Arseneau <asnd@triumf.ca> writes:

> > Well. OK. Why is this an error?

> Because you broke LaTeX.

OK, I did understand the posting to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek
(or "cheeky") but I didn't notice the "subject" or realize it was
a straight-out joke.

Sorry to be a rube.  In my defence, I've been typing
"less secure" in ernest today.

--
Donald Arseneau                          asnd@triumf.ca

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asnd (4601)
2/23/2005 6:48:09 AM
 "Ulrich Diez" <ulrich.diez@alumni.uni-tuebingen.de> writes:
>\documentclass{article}
>\begin{document}
>  \def\else{Ha! Ha!}
>\end{document}
>
>When running the example above, I get the following message:
>
>LaTeX Error: \Begin{document} ended by \end{document}.
>
>Well. OK. Why is this an error?

very witty.  of course, the report is fraudulent, since \begin isn't
capitalised in real latex output (i notice these things ;-)
--
Robin (http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq) Fairbairns, Cambridge

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rf53 (2582)
2/23/2005 2:50:51 PM
"Robin Fairbairns" <rf@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:cvi58b$v4$3@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...

<snip>

> >LaTeX Error: \Begin{document} ended by \end{document}.
> >
> >Well. OK. Why is this an error?
>
> very witty.  of course, the report is fraudulent, since \begin isn't
> capitalised in real latex output (i notice these things ;-)

Well, this report is not fraudulent.

I was expecting an error and did not get one!

And I was bitten by it today.

===
> This is e-TeX, Version 3.141592-2.1 (MiKTeX 2.4)
> **\relax
> entering extended mode
> LaTeX2e <2001/06/01>
> Babel <v3.7j> and hyphenation patterns for english, french, german,
> ngerman,
> du
>
> *\let\wibble\relax
>
> *\newcommand\wibble{}
>
> *\newcommand\relax{}
>
> ! LaTeX Error: Command \relax already defined.
>                Or name \end... illegal, see p.192 of the manual.

Write Don that the decision to let \csname <undefined>\endcsname turn into
\relax was a bad idea and ask for it to be changed.
--
Morten H�gholm
My armpits may be smelly but my is address not.
UK-TUG FAQ: <URL:http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html>

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moho01ab5415 (738)
2/23/2005 4:06:22 PM
"Morten H�gholm" <moho01ab@smelly.student.cbs.dk> wrote in message
news:opsmnq0whu21pc7i@noname.hjortespring.dk...

<snip>

> Write Don that the decision to let \csname <undefined>\endcsname turn into
> \relax was a bad idea and ask for it to be changed.

Not necessary.  And perhaps not a bug.

\def\csarg#1{%
\begingroup
\expandafter\endgroup
\expandafter#1%
\csname
}

\csarg\show wibble\endcsname

This confines the side effect of \csname to a group.
And restores it before #1 is executed.

So the outcome is effectively the same as
\show\wibble

BTW, as you may already know, bug reports should be sent
to Barbara Beeton or TUG, and not to Knuth.

See:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=bug

I doubt that this \csname 'bug' would be passed on to
Knuth.

And well done for getting to the gist of the problem with
\newcommand that I reported.

--
Jonathan


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J.Fine (440)
2/23/2005 5:58:45 PM
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:11:45 -0000, "Jonathan Fine" <J.Fine@open.ac.uk>
wrote:

>"Robin Fairbairns" <rf@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
>news:cvi58b$v4$3@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>
><snip>
>
>> >LaTeX Error: \Begin{document} ended by \end{document}.
>> >
>> >Well. OK. Why is this an error?
>>
>> very witty.  of course, the report is fraudulent, since \begin isn't
>> capitalised in real latex output (i notice these things ;-)
>
>Well, this report is not fraudulent.
>
>I was expecting an error and did not get one!

You did get an error, but maybe not the one you expected.

\newcommand will redefine anything that is
(a) undefined, or
(b) has been \let to \relax, but is not actually the name "\relax".

So
\let\wibble\relax \newcommand\wibble
is not an error, but
\newcommand\relax
is. Quite obvious really. Try it with \tracingmacros=1.

Dan

--
Dan Luecking                     Department of Mathematical Sciences
University of Arkansas           Fayetteville, Arkansas 72701
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Look-In-Sig (1094)
2/23/2005 7:15:01 PM
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:15:01 -0600, Dan Luecking <Look-In-Sig@uark.edu>
wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:11:45 -0000, "Jonathan Fine" <J.Fine@open.ac.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>"Robin Fairbairns" <rf@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
>>news:cvi58b$v4$3@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>> >LaTeX Error: \Begin{document} ended by \end{document}.
>>> >
>>> >Well. OK. Why is this an error?
>>>
>>> very witty.  of course, the report is fraudulent, since \begin isn't
>>> capitalised in real latex output (i notice these things ;-)
>>
>>Well, this report is not fraudulent.
>>
>>I was expecting an error and did not get one!
>
>You did get an error, but maybe not the one you expected.
>
>\newcommand will redefine anything that is
>  (a) undefined, or
>  (b) has been \let to \relax, but is not actually the name "\relax".

So forgetful: each should also say " and doesn't begin with "\end".

Dan

--
Dan Luecking                     Department of Mathematical Sciences
University of Arkansas           Fayetteville, Arkansas 72701
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Look-In-Sig (1094)
2/23/2005 7:18:25 PM
Dan Luecking wrote:

<snip>

>>\newcommand will redefine anything that is
>> (a) undefined, or
>> (b) has been \let to \relax, but is not actually the name "\relax".
>
>
> So forgetful: each should also say " and doesn't begin with "\end".

Case (b) is, in my opinion, a design flaw.  In LaTeX.

Better, I think, would be:
a)  \newcommand will redefine any undefined control sequence,
provided its name is not reserved.
b)  Reserved control sequences are those whose name begins
with 'end'.
c)  Any other use of \newcommand will raise an error.

And quite possibly easier to implement.

--
Jonathan


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jfine (686)
2/23/2005 7:50:52 PM
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:58:45 -0000, Jonathan Fine <J.Fine@open.ac.uk>
wrote:

> "Morten H�gholm" <moho01ab@smelly.student.cbs.dk> wrote in message
> news:opsmnq0whu21pc7i@noname.hjortespring.dk...
>
> <snip>
>
>> Write Don that the decision to let \csname <undefined>\endcsname turn
>> into
>> \relax was a bad idea and ask for it to be changed.
>
> Not necessary.  And perhaps not a bug.

Sure, it's easy enough to provide functions that work around this. We
could have

\def\@ifundefined@cTF#1{%
\begingroup\expandafter\endgroup
\expandafter\ifx\csname #1\endcsname\@undefined
\expandafter\@firstoftwo
\else
\expandafter\@secondoftwo
\fi}

Then imagine this: I constantly need some functions that take some text
and turns it into a control sequence, say a \let@cc function with the
semantics \let@cc{<csname1>}{<csname2>}. Naturally I define a helper
function
\def\exp@args@Ncc#1#2#3{%
\expandafter#1\csname#2\expandafter\endcsname
\csname#3\endcsname
}
so that I can simply say
\def\let@cc{\exp@args@Ncc\let}
\def\let@cc#1#2{%
\expandafter\let\csname#1\expandafter\endcsname
\csname#2\endcsname}
The advantage is that I can use the helper function in many other
contexts. With definitions like these I can even do a
\def\glet@cc{\global\let@cc}

Now if I decide to implement \exp@args@Ncc using grouping to avoid
\relax'ed control sequences, I simply can't use prefixes anymore. Since I
constantly want to use the \begingroup\expandafter\endgroup trick I'll
probably have to use such helper functions anyway else I'll forget to use
the trick somewhere and then it doesn't matter anymore.

> BTW, as you may already know, bug reports should be sent
> to Barbara Beeton or TUG, and not to Knuth.

Sorry, but this is probably the most ironic thing I've seen all day.

> I doubt that this \csname 'bug' would be passed on to
> Knuth.

This feature has already cost him about 600$or so according to my source. -- Morten H�gholm My armpits may be smelly but my is address not. UK-TUG FAQ: <URL:http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html>   0 moho01ab5415 (738) 2/23/2005 10:46:47 PM > Donald Arseneau <asnd@triumf.ca> wrote: .... > Sorry Dear Donald Arseneau, Dear TeX-experts, actually it's me who should have introduced this word into the discussion. My posting caused annoyance and inconvenience. Please accept my apologies for having done so. This was not my aim at all. It was not an intention of expressing disrespect or contemptuousness that drove me to send the posting. It was just some kind of "infantile exaltation" and amusement about the text of that error-message. I often receive great help via comp.text.tex and I know that I 'm in debt of gratitude. I also should have realized that I'm certainly not the first one to "discover" this "LaTeX Error: \begin{document} ended by \end{document}." -message. I beg pardon for my unthougthfulness. Yours truely Ulrich   0 2/23/2005 11:21:25 PM "Ulrich Diez" <ulrich.diez@alumni.uni-tuebingen.de> writes: >> Donald Arseneau <asnd@triumf.ca> wrote: > ... >> Sorry > > Dear Donald Arseneau, Dear TeX-experts, > > actually it's me who should have introduced this word into the > discussion. > My posting caused annoyance and inconvenience. Please accept > my apologies for having done so. This was not my aim at all. > > It was not an intention of expressing disrespect or > contemptuousness that drove me to send the posting. > It was just some kind of "infantile exaltation" and amusement > about the text of that error-message. > > I often receive great help via comp.text.tex and I know that I 'm > in debt of gratitude. > > I also should have realized that I'm certainly not the first one > to "discover" this > "LaTeX Error: \begin{document} ended by \end{document}." > -message. > > I beg pardon for my unthougthfulness. Maybe I can up for the recent bout of politesse by starting a spelling war about "unthougthfulness"? Anyway, if we are going on about bad jokes with TeX, here is one: \output{\edef\woozle{{\noexpand\iffalse{\noexpand\fi\iffalse}}\fi}\noexpand} No! \end }\woozle Explain why the output routine is flagged as unbalanced. This may be slightly more tricky than it looks at first glance... -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum UKTUG FAQ: <URL:http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html>   0 dak (3569) 2/24/2005 12:09:39 AM "Ulrich Diez" <ulrich.diez@alumni.uni-tuebingen.de> writes: > > Donald Arseneau <asnd@triumf.ca> wrote: > ... > > Sorry > > Dear Donald Arseneau, Dear TeX-experts, > > actually it's me who should have introduced this word into the > discussion. My posting caused annoyance and inconvenience. Don't be ridiculous! What is this, apology day!? In case anyone gets the idea I was apologizing, I wasn't. -- Donald Arseneau asnd@triumf.ca   0 asnd (4601) 2/24/2005 6:38:36 AM  "Ulrich Diez" <ulrich.diez@alumni.uni-tuebingen.de> writes: >> Donald Arseneau <asnd@triumf.ca> wrote: >... >> Sorry > >actually it's me who should have introduced this word into the >discussion. >My posting caused annoyance and inconvenience. Please accept >my apologies for having done so. This was not my aim at all. > >It was not an intention of expressing disrespect or >contemptuousness that drove me to send the posting. >It was just some kind of "infantile exaltation" and amusement >about the text of that error-message. > >[...] > >I also should have realized that I'm certainly not the first one >to "discover" this >"LaTeX Error: \begin{document} ended by \end{document}." >-message. well, i had certainly not seen it before, myself, and found it rather amusing. it's not difficult to see how the effect arises, but it's amusing for all that. thanks for drawing my attention to it. but i then made a far more fatuous remark myself (about you misspelling \begin as \Begin) which started a *really* silly sub-thread. i'm not going to reject your apology, but i really don't believe it was necessary. -- Robin (http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq) Fairbairns, Cambridge   0 rf53 (2582) 2/24/2005 7:37:05 AM  Morten_H�gholm <moho01ab@smelly.student.cbs.dk> writes: >On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:58:45 -0000, Jonathan Fine <J.Fine@open.ac.uk> >wrote: >> "Morten H�gholm" <moho01ab@smelly.student.cbs.dk> wrote... >> >> <snip> >> >>> Write Don that the decision to let \csname <undefined>\endcsname turn >>> into >>> \relax was a bad idea and ask for it to be changed. >> >> Not necessary. And perhaps not a bug. > >Sure, it's easy enough to provide functions that work around this. We >could have > >[...] sure, it's not a bug. knuth would reject it, if submitted, on the ground that it's a feature. and you know as well as i do[*] that an awful lot of latex package (if not kernel) code would fall apart if that feature was changed. otherwise, we would rewrite \newcommand and a whole bunch of other things in terms of \ifundefined (given that future latex uses etex). >> BTW, as you may already know, bug reports should be sent >> to Barbara Beeton or TUG, and not to Knuth. > >Sorry, but this is probably the most ironic thing I've seen all day. :-) >> I doubt that this \csname 'bug' would be passed on to >> Knuth. > >This feature has already cost him about 600$ or so according to my source.

one can imagine a sufficiently anal executor of his (in, we hope the
far distant future) trying to contact all his "debtors" about these
uncashed cheques.  strange to relate, i don't have one, so (even if i
_do_ outlive knuth) i shall be spared that embarrassment...

[*] or probably more so
--
Robin (http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq) Fairbairns, Cambridge

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rf53 (2582)
2/24/2005 7:52:10 AM
David Kastrup wrote:
>
> Anyway, if we are going on about bad jokes with TeX, here is one:
>
> \output{\edef\woozle{{\noexpand\iffalse{\noexpand\fi\iffalse}}\fi}\noexpand}
> No!
> \end
> }\woozle
>
> Explain why the output routine is flagged as unbalanced.  This may be
> slightly more tricky than it looks at first glance...

Perhaps someone ought to start a new thread called "Stupid TeX Tricks"....

Apologies (since it *is* Apology Day) to anyone who doesn't understand
the reference and thinks I am calling him or her stupid. I'm not. (Is
David Letterman widely known outside of North America? And Sweden?)

alan

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kkarie1 (96)
2/24/2005 3:43:26 PM
Morten H�gholm wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:58:45 -0000, Jonathan Fine <J.Fine@open.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> "Morten H�gholm" <moho01ab@smelly.student.cbs.dk> wrote in message
>> news:opsmnq0whu21pc7i@noname.hjortespring.dk...
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Write Don that the decision to let \csname <undefined>\endcsname
>>> turn  into
>>> \relax was a bad idea and ask for it to be changed.
>>
>>
>> Not necessary.  And perhaps not a bug.
>
>
> Sure, it's easy enough to provide functions that work around this. We
> could have
>
> \def\@ifundefined@cTF#1{%
>   \begingroup\expandafter\endgroup
>   \expandafter\ifx\csname #1\endcsname\@undefined
>     \expandafter\@firstoftwo
>   \else
>     \expandafter\@secondoftwo
>   \fi}

I see that you are a fan of brace delimited arguments.

I think that makes sense when writing documents.
But not always when writing macros.

So I'd package the functionality as:
\csarg\my@test #1 or whatever\endcsname

\def\my@test #1{%
\ifx #1\@undefined
\expandafter\case@one
\else
\expandafter\case@two
\fi
#1%
}

That way, I can use \my@test with both string and control
sequence arguments.  (Have to convert explicitly, though.)

> Then imagine this: I constantly need some functions that take some text
> and turns it into a control sequence, say a \let@cc function with the
> semantics \let@cc{<csname1>}{<csname2>}. Naturally I define a helper
> function
>   \def\exp@args@Ncc#1#2#3{%
>     \expandafter#1\csname#2\expandafter\endcsname
>       \csname#3\endcsname
>   }

Well, to obtain the functionality of \let@cc I would write:
\csarg\let #1\expandafter\endcsname\csname #2\endcsname

BTW, I'm really fond of \expandafter\endcsname\csname.
I think it's a neat trick.

BTW, your \exp@args takes _3_ parameters.
Are you going to provide variants for 2 up to 9?

> so that I can simply say
>   \def\let@cc{\exp@args@Ncc\let}
>   \def\let@cc#1#2{%
>     \expandafter\let\csname#1\expandafter\endcsname
>     \csname#2\endcsname}
> The advantage is that I can use the helper function in many other
> contexts. With definitions like these I can even do a
>   \def\glet@cc{\global\let@cc}
>
> Now if I decide to implement \exp@args@Ncc using grouping to avoid
> \relax'ed control sequences, I simply can't use prefixes anymore. Since
> I  constantly want to use the \begingroup\expandafter\endgroup trick
> I'll  probably have to use such helper functions anyway else I'll forget
> to use  the trick somewhere and then it doesn't matter anymore.

Well, I would do this:
\def\glet{\global\let}
\csarg\glet #1\expandafter\endcsname\csname #2\endcsname

>> BTW, as you may already know, bug reports should be sent
>> to Barbara Beeton or TUG, and not to Knuth.
>
>
> Sorry, but this is probably the most ironic thing I've seen all day.

This is precisely the procedure I followed for the single bug I have
reported.  As I stated in my recent posting.

I even gave the URL that documents the bug reporting procedure.
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=bug

As my report was not passed on, I contacted Don Knuth directly.

>> I doubt that this \csname 'bug' would be passed on to
>> Knuth.
>
>
> This feature has already cost him about 600$or so according to my source. TeX is 'open source'. The bugs are published. I looked for it in 'The Error log of TeX', but didn't find it. Please help - do you have a date or person for this bug? Anyway, it was fun discussing \csname and \expandafter with you. -- Jonathan   0 jfine (686) 2/24/2005 7:25:20 PM "R.H. Allen" <kkarie@hotmail.com> writes: > Perhaps someone ought to start a new thread called "Stupid TeX Tricks".... Or just keep using this one.... Hmmm I guess this isn't a joke so much as two bugs: This version of tetex doesn't obey interrupts or end-of-file (^C,^D) Macro packages have no way to control error and informational messages properly. Of course, the message should say to type \end twice ! ;-) * ! Interruption. <*> ? (Please type a command or say \end') * (Please type a command or say \end') *! Interruption. <*> ? (Please type a command or say \end') * ! Interruption. <*> ? (Please type a command or say \end') * (Please type a command or say \end') *\end * Runaway argument? ! Paragraph ended before \end was complete. <to be read again> \par <*> ? (Please type a command or say \end') *\end *\end ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=1500]. \end #1->\csname end#1 \endcsname \@checkend {#1}\expandafter \endgroup \if@e... <*> \end No pages of output. Transcript written on texput.log. -- Donald Arseneau asnd@triumf.ca   0 asnd (4601) 2/24/2005 11:03:56 PM Discovered by chance, a few minutes ago. ===$ latex
This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.7)
**\newcommand{typo}{}
LaTeX2e <2001/06/01>
Babel <v3.7h> and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german,
ngerman, n

! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}.

See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type  H <return>  for immediate help.
...

<*> \newcommand{typo}{}

?
===

--
Jonathan


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jfine (686)
2/25/2005 10:02:41 PM

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Hi everyone, Is there a command that automatically places floats (figures and tables) at the very end of the document, ideally putting each figure on a separate page? I am writing a journal paper in the IEEEtran environment and have to frequently switch between double-column and single-column format. Such a command would help to save me a lot of time. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Stefan Stefan Geirhofer <stg803@gmail.com> writes: > Is there a command that automatically places floats (figures and > tables) at the very end of the document, ideally putting e...

document or document.body
I've been attaching tables and other things directly to document. It seems to work. Should I be using document.body? What is/are the difference(s)? Martin Rinehart wrote: > I've been attaching tables and other things directly to document. "Attaching" -- how? > It seems to work. Testing things positive to "work" in a handful of newest UAs without understanding the mechanisms behind them is the first blunder. > Should I be using document.body Yes if you are talking about Element::appendChild() or Node::insertBefore() and objects representing elements th...

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