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fuser functionality seems to have changed in AIX 6.1 TL8 and AIX 7.1

Hi AIX Gurus,

Our company has some scripts that are used to check if users are logged int=
o a specific directory or file system, and the script uses the fuser comman=
d.

What we do is look at the PIDs listed in "fuser ${pathname}" to determine w=
hich users are accessing what files. This is done so we can do maintenance =
at times. We make sure all users are out of the directory, have a method to=
 keep them out, then do our backups or maintenance or whatever.

The problem we are encountering is with AIX 6.1 TL8 and above. It seems tha=
t IBM may have made a change so that a non-root user can only see their own=
 PIDs when running fuser, and not all of the PIDs associated with that path=
..

Example from AIX 5.1, 5.3, and early 6.1 systems:

# whoami
office1

# oslevel -s=20
6100-06-01-1043

# fuser -u /qc/sample
/qc/sample:  2490476c(postgres) 5767176c(postgres) 6094882c(postgres) 67504=
34c(postgres) 6815922c(postgres) 7143588c(postgres) 7471358c(postgres) 7799=
036c(postgres) 8913140c(postgres) 11600120c(postgres) 11731066c(1008) 12976=
256c(postgres) 13303960c(postgres) 13500622c(postgres) 13566180c(postgres) =
13893696c(postgres) 15138826c(postgres) 15466614c(postgres) 16842792c(postg=
res) 18153666c(1009) 18612404c(postgres) 18743530c(postgres) 19071062c(1010=
) 19202252c(postgres) 19267626c(postgres) 19595344c(postgres) 20709580c(pos=
tgres) 20840526c(postgres) 23658578c(postgres) 23986214c(postgres) 25100526=
c(postgres) 25493664c(postgres) 25952288c(postgres) 26148996c(1004) 2654208=
4c(postgres) 26935550c(postgres)


And here is the behavior from AIX 6.1 TL8 and AIX 7.1:

# whoami
steven

# oslevel -s
7100-00-03-1115

# fuser -u /qc/sample
/qc/sample:  18153580c(steven)

---(switching to root login)---

# whoami
root

# fuser -u /liv/spl
/qc/sample:  11665606c(informix) 14417932c(root) 18153580c(steven) 18284670=
c(informix)


The result of this change means that our scripts are not seeing all the use=
rs that they are supposed to. At least it still works as long as the user r=
unning the script is root, but we don't want our operators all logging on a=
s root to do their maintenance.

My question therefore is this: Is there an alternative to fuser that we can=
 use to get a list of PIDs or usernames that are accessing a specific direc=
tory? I know that lsof is supposed to do something similar, but not sure ho=
w to get it to list the PIDs so I can track this back to a specific user.

Here is the logic that exists in the script, in case it helps to clarify wh=
at we are trying to accomplish:

DIRPIDS=3D"$(fuser ${W_DIR} 2>/dev/null)"
WHOPIDS=3D"$(ps -eo pid=3D"",tty=3D"",comm=3D""|egrep -v " \- |getty|defunc=
t"|awk '{print $1}')"
QBPIDS=3D"$(cat /var/spool/lpd/stat/p.queue?.str* 2>/dev/null)"
USRCNT=3D0
TLIST=3D""
for PLOOP in ${WHOPIDS}
do
###################################################################
# Get the PID number and see if it is in our list of directory pids
# If it is, then add the tty or pts to our list
###################################################################
PNUM=3D$(echo ${DIRPIDS} | tr -s ' ' '\n' | grep "^${PLOOP}$")
if test ! "${PNUM}" =3D ""
then
################################################################
# If it is a tty, it only shows up as a number                 #
# eg. 4 instead of tty4                                        #
# To correct that, we have to check and add "tty" if not a pts #
################################################################
TNUM=3D"$(ps -o tty=3D"" -p ${PNUM} | awk '{print $1}')"
if test "$(echo ${TNUM}|cut -c1)" =3D "p"
then
TLIST=3D"${TLIST} ${TNUM}"
else
TLIST=3D"${TLIST} tty${TNUM}"
fi
fi
done

When all is said and done, the $TLIST variable contains a list of tty or pt=
s of the logged on users in the directory. What I need is some way to achie=
ve that same list with a different command if the fuser has changed. Either=
 that or I explore a compiled program with S-bit turned on.

Any suggestions? My next stop is to ask IBM why they changed the fuser, sin=
ce I did not see details of this new requirement in the man pages or the di=
fferences guide.=20

Thx.

SteveN


















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From somewhere in cyberspace, "steven_nospam at Yahoo! Canada" <steven_nospam@yahoo.ca> said:
....
>The problem we are encountering is with AIX 6.1 TL8 and above. It seems
>that IBM may have made a change so that a non-root user can only see
>their own PIDs when running fuser, and not all of the PIDs associated
>with that path.

Have you checked the man pages of fuser to see if they have any
configuration options for showing files of other users?  Also,
have you compared the permissions of fuser on the working systems
with the new ones?

The most straightforward and manageable solution is to install sudo
and set it up so that the desired user(s) can run fuser as root
without a password.

lsof will also work, you can install it setuid or run it out of
sudo, but since you're used to fuser you should probably stick with
that, as lsof may require separate maintenance after OS upgrades.

	-- Ed

-- 
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                           |  devices, metaphors, analogies, typographical
eravin@                    |  errors, or just plain snarkiness.  A sense of
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eravin
7/11/2013 2:46:33 AM
Am 10.07.2013 23:25, schrieb steven_nospam at Yahoo! Canada:
> The problem we are encountering is with AIX 6.1 TL8 and
> above. It seems that IBM may have made a change so that
> a non-root user can only see their own PIDs when running
> fuser, and not all of the PIDs associated with that path.

Call IBM support and open a service request and refer to
APAR IV45190 (so level 1 support does not waste too much
time).
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Thomas
7/11/2013 9:31:52 AM
> Have you checked the man pages of fuser to see if they have any
> configuration options for showing files of other users?  Also,
> have you compared the permissions of fuser on the working systems
> with the new ones?

Hi Ed,

Yes, I checked man to see if they added any new flags or mentioned any new restrictions for fuser. Nothing. And the permissions are the same:

AIX 5.3
-r-sr-xr-x    1 root     system        19084 Mar 20 2009  /usr/sbin/fuser
AIX 7.1
-r-sr-xr-x    1 root     system        38380 Dec 17 2012  /usr/sbin/fuser

We don't have sudo installed. I have pushed for that, but hose higher up want to use software products that are available on the supplied AIX media. I believe lsof is actually included in the AIX Expansion Pack.





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steven_nospam
7/12/2013 3:09:24 PM
> Call IBM support and open a service request and refer to
> APAR IV45190 (so level 1 support does not waste too much
> time).

I see the APAR on Fix Central. Thanks for pointing me in that direction. So looks like others have reported it, but no fix available yet. Guess I call and report it too. 

My other option at this point is to setuid on our scripts and make them run as root. Or Sudo as Ed pointed out earlier.

Thanks guys.

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steven_nospam
7/12/2013 3:11:33 PM
In comp.unix.aix, "steven_nospam at Yahoo! Canada" <steven_nospam@yahoo.ca>
wrote:

>My other option at this point is to setuid on our scripts 

You can use setuid on scripts.  Binaries only.
-- 
Tony Evans
Seeking archives for uk.* from 1998 and older.  Especially interested
in uk.net.news.* and any groups which preceded uk.net.news.* for 
hierarchy management (uk.misc? uk.net?).
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Tony
7/12/2013 3:49:30 PM
"steven_nospam at Yahoo! Canada" <steven_nospam@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>> Call IBM support and open a service request and refer to
>> APAR IV45190 (so level 1 support does not waste too much
>> time).
>
>I see the APAR on Fix Central. Thanks for pointing me in that direction. So looks like others have reported it, but no fix available yet. Guess I call and report it too. 
>
>My other option at this point is to setuid on our scripts and make them run as root. Or Sudo as Ed pointed out earlier.
>
>Thanks guys.

Sudo is far more secure than setuid, and from memory AIX does not
allow setuid on scripts.

Ted.
==============================================================
| Ted Linnell                 <edlinnell@acslink.net.au>     |
|                                  |
| Nunawading, Victoria , Australia                           |
==============================================================
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Ted
7/13/2013 2:38:44 AM
Am 12.07.2013 17:11, schrieb steven_nospam at Yahoo! Canada:
> Guess I call and report it too.

request an ifix from IBM. The code change should be in fuser
only - so this ifix can be installed without the need to reboot.
As a quick work around you may use an fuser from a lower AIX TL/SP,
one without the fix for IV29289 (read this APAR, it is a security
issue, users can kill processes of other users). Use the TL8 SP1
fuser.
0
Thomas
7/13/2013 5:06:54 AM
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