I've kind of given up my attempt to get my Compaq / HP nx9005 working
- it now doesn't reliably answer to keyboard input on 1st boot from the real
disk, which is pretty crippling (it *has* done so in the past, so I
have no real idea what is going on other than normal PC randomness).

Can anyone recommend a good laptop for Solaris 10?  By `good' I mean
something that will *just work* the way sparc machines just work,
which is reasonably light (the nx9005 fails dismally on this count),
which has a screen of at least 1024x768 and preferably which I can get
second hand somewhere for cheap.  It doesn't need to be very fast or
anything.

Thanks

--tim

On Mon, 30 May 2005, Tim Bradshaw wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a good laptop for Solaris 10?  By `good' I mean
> something that will *just work* the way sparc machines just work,

I don't think anything in x86 land is that straightforward...  :-/

> which is reasonably light (the nx9005 fails dismally on this count),
> which has a screen of at least 1024x768 and preferably which I can get
> second hand somewhere for cheap.  It doesn't need to be very fast or
> anything.

I'd recommend the Acer Ferrari 3400.  I've also heard good things about
the Toshiba M20.

-- 
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich

On Mon, 30 May 2005, Bernd.Schemmer wrote:

> When I remebmer correct you mentioned in your blog that you have the
> tools from Casper to use Wifi and such things. So for now you're one of
> the fews guys that can use more Solaris x86 on Laptops than the others :-)

That is true!  :-)

> BTW: Do they work well?

Yep.  Wifi is it a bit iffy now and then, but I'm not convinced it's
a SW issue.  Some of the graphical wigets (e.g., the battery monitor)
or GNOME-only, so I'd like to see those ported to CDE.

Hopefully, the bits that make up frkit will get rolled into (Open)Solaris
soon so that everyone can benefit.

-- 
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich

Rich Teer wrote:
> On Mon, 30 May 2005, Tim Bradshaw wrote:
> 
> 
>>Can anyone recommend a good laptop for Solaris 10?  By `good' I mean
>>something that will *just work* the way sparc machines just work,
> 
> 
> 
> I'd recommend the Acer Ferrari 3400.  

Rich,

When I remebmer correct you mentioned in your blog that you have the 
tools from Casper to use Wifi and such things. So for now you're one of 
the fews guys that can use more Solaris x86 on Laptops than the others :-)

BTW: Do they work well?

regards

Bernd


I've also heard good things about
> the Toshiba M20.
> 


-- 
Bernd Schemmer

Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> writes:
> On Mon, 30 May 2005, Tim Bradshaw wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone recommend a good laptop for Solaris 10?  By `good' I mean
> > something that will *just work* the way sparc machines just work,
> 
> I don't think anything in x86 land is that straightforward...  :-/
> 
> > which is reasonably light (the nx9005 fails dismally on this count),
> > which has a screen of at least 1024x768 and preferably which I can get
> > second hand somewhere for cheap.  It doesn't need to be very fast or
> > anything.
> 
> I'd recommend the Acer Ferrari 3400.  I've also heard good things about
> the Toshiba M20.

Cannot boot from cdrom on my Toshiba Tecra M2-S730 - the boot stops
indefinitely partway into the install cd.  Too bad- it makes a nice
Linux laptop, with the control key in the lower left instead of the
beastly Fn key down there.  I even kept a 10 gig partition for S10 but
no dice at the moment.

Gregm

Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> writes:

>Yep.  Wifi is it a bit iffy now and then, but I'm not convinced it's
>a SW issue.  Some of the graphical wigets (e.g., the battery monitor)
>or GNOME-only, so I'd like to see those ported to CDE.

You don't have the latest one which seems to work better.

There's also a battery monitor which actually runs in the CDE frontpanel
or standalone anywhere.

Casper
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to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.

Greg Menke <gregm-news@toadmail.com> writes:

>Cannot boot from cdrom on my Toshiba Tecra M2-S730 - the boot stops
>indefinitely partway into the install cd.  Too bad- it makes a nice
>Linux laptop, with the control key in the lower left instead of the
>beastly Fn key down there.  I even kept a 10 gig partition for S10 but
>no dice at the moment.

Quite a few people have M2s around here; I think there's a legacy
BIOS option or so which needs turning off.

Casper
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to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.

Greg Menke wrote:
> Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> writes:
> 
>>On Mon, 30 May 2005, Tim Bradshaw wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Can anyone recommend a good laptop for Solaris 10?  By `good' I mean
>>>something that will *just work* the way sparc machines just work,
>>
>>I don't think anything in x86 land is that straightforward...  :-/
>>
>>
>>>which is reasonably light (the nx9005 fails dismally on this count),
>>>which has a screen of at least 1024x768 and preferably which I can get
>>>second hand somewhere for cheap.  It doesn't need to be very fast or
>>>anything.
>>
>>I'd recommend the Acer Ferrari 3400.  I've also heard good things about
>>the Toshiba M20.
> 
> 
> Cannot boot from cdrom on my Toshiba Tecra M2-S730 - the boot stops
> indefinitely partway into the install cd.  Too bad- it makes a nice
> Linux laptop, with the control key in the lower left instead of the
> beastly Fn key down there.  I even kept a 10 gig partition for S10 but
> no dice at the moment.
> 
> Gregm
> 
Got it installed on my Tecra M1.  Had to disable Legacy floppy support 
and I *think* the parallel port.  Just disable everything in BIOS and 
try it.  If you can't get it to work, just mail it to me. ;)
D

Tim Bradshaw <tfb@cley.com> wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a good laptop for Solaris 10?  By `good' I mean
> something that will *just work* the way sparc machines just work,
> which is reasonably light (the nx9005 fails dismally on this count),
> which has a screen of at least 1024x768 and preferably which I can get
> second hand somewhere for cheap.  It doesn't need to be very fast or
> anything.

I am holding out for OpenSolaris on PPC now that I know someone is
working on it. ;)

Casper H.S. Dik <Casper.Dik@Sun.COM> writes:

> Greg Menke <gregm-news@toadmail.com> writes:
> 
> >Cannot boot from cdrom on my Toshiba Tecra M2-S730 - the boot stops
> >indefinitely partway into the install cd.  Too bad- it makes a nice
> >Linux laptop, with the control key in the lower left instead of the
> >beastly Fn key down there.  I even kept a 10 gig partition for S10 but
> >no dice at the moment.
> 
> Quite a few people have M2s around here; I think there's a legacy
> BIOS option or so which needs turning off.


Cool- I'll give it a whirl this week.  Thanks!

Gregm

On Mon, 30 May 2005, Casper H.S. Dik wrote:

> You don't have the latest one which seems to work better.

Ah ha!  You know where to send the latest frkit tar ball...  :-)

> There's also a battery monitor which actually runs in the CDE frontpanel
> or standalone anywhere.

Cool; I'd like to play with that.

-- 
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich

I have a tecra m21 running sol 10 and the wirerless builtin works.
(early update solaris 10)

You may want to start looking here:

http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/sol/

Rich Teer wrote:
> On Mon, 30 May 2005, Casper H.S. Dik wrote:
> 
> 
>>You don't have the latest one which seems to work better.
> 
> 
> Ah ha!  You know where to send the latest frkit tar ball...  :-)
> 
> 
>>There's also a battery monitor which actually runs in the CDE frontpanel
>>or standalone anywhere.
> 
> 
> Cool; I'd like to play with that.
> 
Is there likely to be a fr4000kit for the Turion based Ferrari 4000?

- Bob

On Tue, 31 May 2005, Robert Lawhead wrote:

> Is there likely to be a fr4000kit for the Turion based Ferrari 4000?

And what's the difference between the Mobile Athalon 64 and the Turion?
AMD's site, despite lots of marketing stuff, is not exactly forthcoming
on this info.  (Is it dual-core, faster than the Atahlon, etc. etc.?)

-- 
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President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich

Rich Teer wrote:
> On Tue, 31 May 2005, Robert Lawhead wrote:
> 
> 
>>Is there likely to be a fr4000kit for the Turion based Ferrari 4000?
> 
> 
> And what's the difference between the Mobile Athalon 64 and the Turion?
> AMD's site, despite lots of marketing stuff, is not exactly forthcoming
> on this info.  (Is it dual-core, faster than the Atahlon, etc. etc.?)
> 

My question is mainly motivated by the fact that the 3400 uses
the VIA ProSavage K8T800 chipset, while the 4000 uses the
ATI RADEON XPRESS 200P chipset. One difference between
Turion and Mobile 64 is that the Turion consumes less power...
either 25w (MT-xx) or 35w (ML-xx) depending on modes
available in the chipset and design implemented by ACER,
vs 62 watts for the 3400.  I infer that this translates to
longer sustained operation on batteries and fewer heat
issues (which I've seen posted re: the 3400).

I can't find detailed specs on the configuration(s) that Acer
will supply, however I was hoping that the MT-34 might be used,
which would provide 1.8GHz w/1M L2 cache @ 25W.  Below is a
first pass at comparing the two... please keep in mind that
I have neither device, so feel free to post corrections.

I'm trying to weigh the trade-offs between selecting the older
h/w with what seems to be an active user base, versus newer,
more power friendly h/w with no existing user base because the
4000 has just been announced.

- Bob

4000                                    3400

AMD Turion 64 Mobile (25, 35W)          AMD Mobile (62 W)
1MB L2 cache                            think the 3000 has 1 MB ?
1Gb of DDR memory (up 20 2Gb)           512Mb (up to 2Gb)
PCI express                             no PCIe
ATI Radeon X700 PCIe (1650x1050)        ATI Raedon 9700 AGP (1400x1050)
TFT screen 15.4"			15.0"
100Gb hard drive, ???? rpm, ATA         80 Gb 4200 rpm ATA
DVD super multi double layer drive      perhaps same, but can't tell
Gigabit ethernet                        ?? seen both "fast" and "giga"
DVI-D                                   don't think so
docking port 				?, don't think so
Wi-fi and Bluetooth,                    ditto
v.92 modem                              ditto
4 USB 2.0 ports                         ditto
S-Video out                             ditto
Firewire                                ditto
PC card slot                            ditto
Microphone/line-in port                 ditto
Headphones/speaker/line-out port        ditto ?
weight  2.86 Kg				3.014 Kg
VGA for an external display.            may be lower res.
5-in-1 card reader			4-in-1, missing xD-Picture Card?

Most references from:
	www.amdboard.com/ferrari_3400.html
	www.amdboard.com/ferrari_4000.html

Rich Teer wrote:
> I'd recommend the Acer Ferrari 3400.  I've also heard good things about
> the Toshiba M20.

Do you have it working on the Acer Ferrari 3400?

Rich Teer wrote:
> Hopefully, the bits that make up frkit will get rolled into (Open)Solaris
> soon so that everyone can benefit.

I'm been "off" for a while, what's a "frkit"?

Chris Barrera wrote:
> I am holding out for OpenSolaris on PPC now that I know someone is
> working on it. ;)

Who's working on it?

Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> writes:

>On Mon, 30 May 2005, Casper H.S. Dik wrote:

>> You don't have the latest one which seems to work better.

>Ah ha!  You know where to send the latest frkit tar ball...  :-)

>> There's also a battery monitor which actually runs in the CDE frontpanel
>> or standalone anywhere.

>Cool; I'd like to play with that.

"acpipowertool" should exist and I saw John run it in a CDE
front panel.

Casper

Robert Lawhead <news0000.5.unixguru@spamgourmet.com> writes:

>> Cool; I'd like to play with that.
>> 
>Is there likely to be a fr4000kit for the Turion based Ferrari 4000?

The "frkit" actually works for most laptops (battery, power button
support) so there would not be a special version.

Little bird told me that I would likely  be getting a Ferrari 4000
to replace my aging Ferrari 3400 (or really to make sure it works
as well as the 3400 under Solaris)

Casper
-- 
Expressed in this posting are my opinions.  They are in no way related
to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.

Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> writes:

>On Tue, 31 May 2005, Robert Lawhead wrote:

>> Is there likely to be a fr4000kit for the Turion based Ferrari 4000?

>And what's the difference between the Mobile Athalon 64 and the Turion?
>AMD's site, despite lots of marketing stuff, is not exactly forthcoming
>on this info.  (Is it dual-core, faster than the Atahlon, etc. etc.?)

Supposedly uses less power (but the FR4000 ships with the 35Watt
version) and has a 2x larger L2 cache + SSE3 instructions.

Casper
-- 
Expressed in this posting are my opinions.  They are in no way related
to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.

Robert Lawhead <news0000.5.unixguru@spamgourmet.com> writes:

>I can't find detailed specs on the configuration(s) that Acer
>will supply, however I was hoping that the MT-34 might be used,
>which would provide 1.8GHz w/1M L2 cache @ 25W.  Below is a
>first pass at comparing the two... please keep in mind that
>I have neither device, so feel free to post corrections.

No, it's the ML-37 (the 35W 2.0 GHz)

>I'm trying to weigh the trade-offs between selecting the older
>h/w with what seems to be an active user base, versus newer,
>more power friendly h/w with no existing user base because the
>4000 has just been announced.

>- Bob

>4000                                    3400

>AMD Turion 64 Mobile (25, 35W)          AMD Mobile (62 W)

	2GHz, 35 Watt.			 AMD Mobile Athlon 64, 3000+
					 2GHz, 35 Watt.

>1MB L2 cache                            think the 3000 has 1 MB ?

					 512KB cache in the 3400 (3000+)

>1Gb of DDR memory (up 20 2Gb)           512Mb (up to 2Gb)
DDR333					DDR266

>PCI express                             no PCIe
>ATI Radeon X700 PCIe (1650x1050)        ATI Raedon 9700 AGP (1400x1050)
>TFT screen 15.4"			15.0"
>100Gb hard drive, ???? rpm, ATA         80 Gb 4200 rpm ATA

5400 RPM ATA 100

>DVD super multi double layer drive      perhaps same, but can't tell
>Gigabit ethernet                        ?? seen both "fast" and "giga"
					 giga, broadcom.

>DVI-D                                   don't think so
					Nope
>docking port 				?, don't think so
					Yes.
>Wi-fi and Bluetooth,                    ditto
>v.92 modem                              ditto
>4 USB 2.0 ports                         ditto

The FR4000 has a somewhat better placement (not all on one side)

>S-Video out                             ditto
>Firewire                                ditto
>PC card slot                            ditto
>Microphone/line-in port                 ditto
>Headphones/speaker/line-out port        ditto ?
					 Yep.

>weight  2.86 Kg				3.014 Kg
>VGA for an external display.            may be lower res.
o					no, drives anything the ATI9700 does
					just fine.

>5-in-1 card reader			4-in-1, missing xD-Picture Card?

>Most references from:
>	www.amdboard.com/ferrari_3400.html
>	www.amdboard.com/ferrari_4000.html


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to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.

On Tue, 31 May 2005, UNIX admin wrote:

> Rich Teer wrote:
> > I'd recommend the Acer Ferrari 3400.  I've also heard good things about
> > the Toshiba M20.
>
> Do you have it working on the Acer Ferrari 3400?

If by "it" you mean Solaris 10, then yes.  Solaris Express adds
support for the sound.

-- 
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President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich

On Tue, 31 May 2005, UNIX admin wrote:

> Rich Teer wrote:
> > Hopefully, the bits that make up frkit will get rolled into (Open)Solaris
> > soon so that everyone can benefit.
>
> I'm been "off" for a while, what's a "frkit"?

frkit is a set of drivers and utilities put together by Sun engineers
(notably Casper Dik), originally for the Ferrari, but now has wider
scope.

At the moment, it is not available outside Sun (except to a select few),
and I have no idea when its contents will make it into OpenSolaris or
Solaris Express (makes a mental note to ask Casper).

-- 
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich

On Tue, 31 May 2005, UNIX admin wrote:

> Chris Barrera wrote:
> > I am holding out for OpenSolaris on PPC now that I know someone is
> > working on it. ;)
>
> Who's working on it?

Some of the OpenSolaris pilot program members.  There's some info
at www.blastware.org, but I guess more info will become available
after OpenSolaris goes public next month.

-- 
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich

Casper H.S. Dik wrote:
> Robert Lawhead <news0000.5.unixguru@spamgourmet.com> writes:
> 
> 
>>>Cool; I'd like to play with that.
>>>
>>
>>Is there likely to be a fr4000kit for the Turion based Ferrari 4000?
> 
> 
> The "frkit" actually works for most laptops (battery, power button
> support) so there would not be a special version.
> 
> Little bird told me that I would likely  be getting a Ferrari 4000
> to replace my aging Ferrari 3400 (or really to make sure it works
> as well as the 3400 under Solaris)
> 
> Casper

Tough job, but sounds like you're the right one to do it ;-)...
I look forward to any updates you might be able to share.
Perhaps a blog topic?  Thanks for your reply.

- Bob

Casper H.S. Dik wrote:
> ...
> Little bird told me that I would likely  be getting a Ferrari 4000
> to replace my aging Ferrari 3400 (or really to make sure it works
> as well as the 3400 under Solaris)
> 
> Casper

Any birdies mention the ASUS A6000K?  Also looks nice, and it
appears that it will offer mt-34 configuration based on yet
another chipset from SIS:

	http://www.amdboard.com/asus_a6000k.html

Rich Teer wrote:

> Some of the OpenSolaris pilot program members.  There's some info
> at www.blastware.org, but I guess more info will become available
> after OpenSolaris goes public next month.

Dennis Clarke & Co.
Are we talking Apple or IBM, or both? "PPC" is a broad term, especially 
these days with machines like the PPC Amiga.

In article <429d51b3$0$1162$5402220f@news.sunrise.ch>,
UNIX admin  <tripivceta@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Rich Teer wrote:
>
>> Some of the OpenSolaris pilot program members.  There's some info
>> at www.blastware.org, but I guess more info will become available
>> after OpenSolaris goes public next month.
>
>Dennis Clarke & Co.
>Are we talking Apple or IBM, or both? "PPC" is a broad term, especially 
>these days with machines like the PPC Amiga.

I don't believe that we will have an OpenSolaris PPC port supporting
PPC notebooks soon. The reason is that we need unique hardware for all
developers and the HW we currently have is a pegasos. If Apple would
give us PPC notebooks for free, this was nice but I don't expect it
to happen.

Note that before being able to have a real development start for PPC,
we need a working OpenSolaris dustribution for sparc or intel. This 
has been become reality last night. The SchilliX Life CD is functional
since last night. Now we need tp wait until the legal stuff is ready.


If somebody like to join the SchilliX team, check schillix.berlios.de
or send me a mail.

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      js@cs.tu-berlin.de		(uni)  
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Note that before being able to have a real development start for PPC,
> we need a working OpenSolaris dustribution for sparc or intel. This 
> has been become reality last night. The SchilliX Life CD is functional
> since last night. Now we need tp wait until the legal stuff is ready.

OK, but how about we give a real slick name to your live CD distro?
Say, "Pulsar" comes to mind (Sun = star = Pulsar)? Or something *really* 
slick?

"SchilliX" just reeks of Knoppix.  Next thing you know and we'll have 
"Vegetabix", "Fish & Chipsix", "Bratwurstix", "LiveCDbootix", and so on...

To make matters even worse, they're handing out "Knoppix" CDs at UNIX 
basics courses...

> If somebody like to join the SchilliX team, check schillix.berlios.de
> or send me a mail.

Count me in.

UNIX admin wrote:
> Joerg Schilling wrote:
> 
>> Note that before being able to have a real development start for PPC,
>> we need a working OpenSolaris dustribution for sparc or intel. This 
>> has been become reality last night. The SchilliX Life CD is functional
>> since last night. Now we need tp wait until the legal stuff is ready.
> 
> 
> OK, but how about we give a real slick name to your live CD distro?

Speaking of the name, how exactly is "SchilliX" pronounced?  To an English
speaker (at least to this English speaker), the simplest spelling (if it
were an English word) would be "ShilliX", so the extra "c" would seem
at first to indicate something must be different (else its presence would
not be justified), but just what it indicates isn't clear.

I tried to work it out by analogy other words that begin with "sch", but
between "schism" and "schnapps", it wasn't easy.  After a little digging
through the dictionary, it seems that in most cases if the etymology goes
back to German, then "sch" is pronounced like "sh", but in other cases
(like "scheme" or "schizophrenia" or "schooner") "sch" is pronounced like
"sk".  And then you add in the complexity of "schedule" (whose pronunciation
can be either "sh" or "sk", depending on whether the Atlantic is east or
west of your location), and it gets even more confusing.

Personally, I think it must be pronounced "SHILL icks", but that is
only because I have all the pieces of information necessary to use
the following line of reasoning:

	SchilliX is closely related to Joerg Schilling
	&&
	(
	    Joerg Schilling posts to comp.unix.solaris from a .de address
	    && .de is Germany

             -> Joerg is probably German
	)
	&&
	German words spelled "sch" are pronounced like "sh"

	-> SchilliX is pronounced like "sh"

I'm not saying it's bad name, but maybe put up a .wav or .mp3 or .au
file saying "SchilliX is pronounced SHILL icks", like the one of Linus
Torvalds explaining how Linux is pronounced.
(see http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.mp3 .)

   - Logan

In article <429f6d05$0$1156$5402220f@news.sunrise.ch>,
UNIX admin  <tripivceta@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Joerg Schilling wrote:
>> Note that before being able to have a real development start for PPC,
>> we need a working OpenSolaris dustribution for sparc or intel. This 
>> has been become reality last night. The SchilliX Life CD is functional
>> since last night. Now we need tp wait until the legal stuff is ready.
>
>OK, but how about we give a real slick name to your live CD distro?
>Say, "Pulsar" comes to mind (Sun = star = Pulsar)? Or something *really* 
>slick?
>
>"SchilliX" just reeks of Knoppix.  Next thing you know and we'll have 

The name SchilliX just follows usual rules from the UNIX community.

-	It starts with an "S" to show it's heritage from Solaris

-	It ends with "iX" to show it's heritage from UNIX.

-	And it includes some loans the from name of the maker.

We had a lot of better names in mind, but unfortunately, we don't live
in the 17th centyry but in the 21st century and I also need to honor
possible other trademarks. 

"SchilliX" was the _only_ term that did not return any search result 
from Google before I created the name. All other (better) names lead
to thousands of results.

Try your proposal "Pulsar" together with UNIX and you will get 88000
results and even a company of than name.

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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Try your proposal "Pulsar" together with UNIX and you will get 88000
> results and even a company of than name.

I believe you. Although, whoever has it registered would have a tough 
time proving ownership. It'd be like someone registered the name "Moon", 
"grass", "water", "air" or "food".

I was just thinking about it logically:

a) a pulsar is a star born from a super nova (like Solaris10 from Sun, 
hehe!)
b) by definition, pulsars spin rapidly around their axis (analogy with a 
CD spinning), and since this is a CDROM bootable version of Solaris, well...
I think you get the idea. There is even a particular pulsar star I have 
in mind.

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Try your proposal "Pulsar" together with UNIX and you will get 88000
> results and even a company of than name.

Anyways, how could I help you with the SchilliX distro? What do you guys 
need?

"UNIX admin" <tripivceta@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Joerg Schilling wrote:
> > Try your proposal "Pulsar" together with UNIX and you will get 88000
> > results and even a company of than name.
> 
> I believe you. Although, whoever has it registered would have a tough 
> time proving ownership. It'd be like someone registered the name "Moon", 
> "grass", "water", "air" or "food".

Such as "Windows", "Apple", "Sun", "Tiger"?
Or "Webspace" if you are from Germany.


Thomas

Thomas Dehn wrote:
> "UNIX admin" <tripivceta@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>
>>>Try your proposal "Pulsar" together with UNIX and you will get 88000
>>>results and even a company of than name.
>>
>>I believe you. Although, whoever has it registered would have a tough 
>>time proving ownership. It'd be like someone registered the name "Moon", 
>>"grass", "water", "air" or "food".
> 
> 
> Such as "Windows", "Apple", "Sun", "Tiger"?
> Or "Webspace" if you are from Germany.

Careful: "Apple Computer" and "Sun Microsytems, Inc" != "Apple" and 
"Sun". And neither is "OS X Tiger" == "Tiger".

I've got it running mostly happy on my IBM Thinkpad 600e.  As far as the OS 
itself is concerned, all is well.  It installed cleanly and runs nicely.

The one fly-in-the-ointment is networking.  The 600e does not do ethernet 
built-in.  When I've had Linux on it (RH 9 and more recently FC3), the PCMCIA 
wi-fi card (Lucent OriNoco) worked just fine.

When I tried Solaris 9 on it, I was able to get the card to work by adding 
Lynnsoft's "LSPccard" package.

I got the newest version (4.2.2) from them that's supposed to be Solaris 10 
compatible and while the OS now recognizes my card (I see a power light), I 
can't get it to see my home wireless network thru it.

I have /etc/hosts, /etc/defaultrouter, /etc/nodename, /etc/hostname.pcpsm0 and 
/etc/resolv.conf all set correctly.  ("pcpsm" is Lynnsoft's driver name). I 
have the pcpsm.conf file for the Lynnsoft driver set correctly.

This is a network I have 6 other machines of various OS's running contentedly 
on, most of them wirelessly.

I get no messages during boot or afterword to explain what might be wrong.

The symptom:
ping (either by IP or by name) gets no response
"netstat -r" and "ifconfig -a" seem to show just what they should (according 
to the book)
"arp -a" seems ok (though I confess I'm not sure what to look for"

The solaris 10 "network monitor" widget shows packets being sent, but nothing 
being received.

I don't know what else to try.


Tim Bradshaw wrote:
> I've kind of given up my attempt to get my Compaq / HP nx9005 working
> - it now doesn't reliably answer to keyboard input on 1st boot from the real
> disk, which is pretty crippling (it *has* done so in the past, so I
> have no real idea what is going on other than normal PC randomness).
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good laptop for Solaris 10?  By `good' I mean
> something that will *just work* the way sparc machines just work,
> which is reasonably light (the nx9005 fails dismally on this count),
> which has a screen of at least 1024x768 and preferably which I can get
> second hand somewhere for cheap.  It doesn't need to be very fast or
> anything.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> --tim

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> Casper H.S. Dikwrote:
Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> writes:
> 
> Yep.  Wifi is it a bit iffy now and then, but I'm not convinced
it's
> a SW issue.  Some of the graphical wigets (e.g., the battery
monitor)
> or GNOME-only, so I'd like to see those ported to CDE.
> 
You don't have the latest one which seems to work better.

There's also a battery monitor which actually runs in the CDE
frontpanel
or standalone anywhere.

Casper

frkit sounds like what so many of us with AMD64 notebooks (those with
Ferrarris and those with Ferrari-envy) are waiting for. I understand
the wish to keep it in-house until the bugs are worked out, but
wouldn't it make more sense to get it to a larger testing base? And
of course, making it available to the hoi-polloi would generate more
good will and merit than the sands of the Ganges...

Or, at least, could you release a tentative schedule? Thanks!

boretz@mail.utexas-dot-edu.no-spam.invalid (zzcat) writes:

>frkit sounds like what so many of us with AMD64 notebooks (those with
>Ferrarris and those with Ferrari-envy) are waiting for. I understand
>the wish to keep it in-house until the bugs are worked out, but
>wouldn't it make more sense to get it to a larger testing base? And
>of course, making it available to the hoi-polloi would generate more
>good will and merit than the sands of the Ganges...

>Or, at least, could you release a tentative schedule? Thanks!

We're working on releasing much of it as OpenSolaris launches;
as part of OpenSolaris, the development process will be more open
too and engineering prototypes will not be held as close as
before.

Once I'm satisfied that the parts I wrote can be safely released under
the CDDL I will do so.


Powermanagement is a must have for AMD64 laptops, as is critical
temperature shutdown (not done by the hardware on Ferrari's).

Casper
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