Dear All
Can you please let me know how can I check for my internal modem on my
solaris8 machine?
Thank you

In article 
<6aef81cf-59e0-4509-b6d1-84e5a14e4084@i3g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
 hadi motamedi <motamedi24@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All
> Can you please let me know how can I check for my internal modem on my
> solaris8 machine?
> Thank you

If you have a Sparc system, the "internal modem" is most likely a real 
modem connected to a serial port.  You can use tip or cu for that.

If you have a PC box, chances are very slim that the modem will work on 
Solaris unless it's something that emulates a serial port.  Most boxes 
have a modem but it's a "windows modem" which requires special drivers 
in windows to work.  Those drivers aren't in Solaris.  So, you have to 
write them or find them somewhere on the net.  Good luck with that.

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On Oct 3, 10:51=A0am, Michael Vilain <vil...@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> In article
> <6aef81cf-59e0-4509-b6d1-84e5a14e4...@i3g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
> =A0hadi motamedi <motamed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear All
> > Can you please let me know how can I check for my internal modem on my
> > solaris8 machine?
> > Thank you
>
> If you have a Sparc system, the "internal modem" is most likely a real
> modem connected to a serial port. =A0You can use tip or cu for that.
>
> If you have a PC box, chances are very slim that the modem will work on
> Solaris unless it's something that emulates a serial port. =A0Most boxes
> have a modem but it's a "windows modem" which requires special drivers
> in windows to work. =A0Those drivers aren't in Solaris. =A0So, you have t=
o
> write them or find them somewhere on the net. =A0Good luck with that.
>
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red]

So , according to you, using external modem on Sparc system is a must.

On 10/ 3/10 09:04 PM, hadi motamedi wrote:
> On Oct 3, 10:51 am, Michael Vilain<vil...@NOspamcop.net>  wrote:
>> In article
>> <6aef81cf-59e0-4509-b6d1-84e5a14e4...@i3g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
>>   hadi motamedi<motamed...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All
>>> Can you please let me know how can I check for my internal modem on my
>>> solaris8 machine?
>>> Thank you
>>
>> If you have a Sparc system, the "internal modem" is most likely a real
>> modem connected to a serial port.  You can use tip or cu for that.
>>
>> If you have a PC box, chances are very slim that the modem will work on
>> Solaris unless it's something that emulates a serial port.  Most boxes
>> have a modem but it's a "windows modem" which requires special drivers
>> in windows to work.  Those drivers aren't in Solaris.  So, you have to
>> write them or find them somewhere on the net.  Good luck with that.
>>
>> --
>> DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
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>
> So , according to you, using external modem on Sparc system is a must.

Unless you can find a Sparc system with an internal modem, according to 
everyone else as well!

-- 
Ian Collins

On 2010-10-03 09:04:03 +0100, hadi motamedi said:

> So , according to you, using external modem on Sparc system is a must.

An external (ie "real") modem is almost certainly a must on an x86 system too.
-- 
Chris

In article <8gqtpgFivpU1@mid.individual.net>,
	Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> writes:
> On 2010-10-03 09:04:03 +0100, hadi motamedi said:
> 
>> So , according to you, using external modem on Sparc system is a must.
> 
> An external (ie "real") modem is almost certainly a must on an x86 system too.

On Solaris 8 x86, an ISA-bus modem will work if you configure it in the
DCA as a serial port. It has to be a real modem card which contains a
hardware modem (which I think was the case with most ISA-bus ones).
Winmodems won't work - they are just telephone line interfaces, and
all the modem function is done in a special windows driver. Most PCI
modems are winmodems, although there have been a few real ones.
The Solaris 8 serial port driver won't drive PCI cards anyway, so
even a real PCI modem won't work with it.

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Andrew Gabriel
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On 10/3/2010 4:04 AM, hadi motamedi wrote:
> On Oct 3, 10:51 am, Michael Vilain<vil...@NOspamcop.net>  wrote:
>> In article
>> <6aef81cf-59e0-4509-b6d1-84e5a14e4...@i3g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
>>   hadi motamedi<motamed...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All
>>> Can you please let me know how can I check for my internal modem on my
>>> solaris8 machine?
>>> Thank you
>>
>> If you have a Sparc system, the "internal modem" is most likely a real
>> modem connected to a serial port.  You can use tip or cu for that.
>>
>> If you have a PC box, chances are very slim that the modem will work on
>> Solaris unless it's something that emulates a serial port.  Most boxes
>> have a modem but it's a "windows modem" which requires special drivers
>> in windows to work.  Those drivers aren't in Solaris.  So, you have to
>> write them or find them somewhere on the net.  Good luck with that.
>>
>> --
>> DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
>> [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
>
> So , according to you, using external modem on Sparc system is a must.
>

If you need a modem on a SPARC box, an external modem is almost 
certainly the easiest way to get one.  To use a modem on a PCI card you 
would need to find, or write, a device driver for it.  Writing a driver 
requires a very good knowledge of programming and intimate knowledge of 
the hardware and O/S you are writing it for.  Since device drivers 
almost always run in kernel mode at least part of the time, an error can 
hose your system in microseconds!

If Sun sells an internal modem for SPARC hardware, there is almost 
certainly a driver available for it.  If not, proceed at your own risk!!!!

hadi motamedi <motamedi24@gmail.com> writes:
>Michael Vilain <vil...@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>>hadi motamedi <motamed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear All
>> > Can you please let me know how can I check for my internal modem on my
>> > solaris8 machine?
>> > Thank you
>>
>> If you have a Sparc system, the "internal modem" is most likely a real
>> modem connected to a serial port. �You can use tip or cu for that.
>>
>> If you have a PC box, chances are very slim that the modem will work on
>> Solaris unless it's something that emulates a serial port. �Most boxes
>> have a modem but it's a "windows modem" which requires special drivers
>> in windows to work. �Those drivers aren't in Solaris. �So, you have to
>> write them or find them somewhere on the net. �Good luck with that.
>>
>
>So , according to you, using external modem on Sparc system is a must.
>

The trick is *finding* an internal modem for a Sparc system.

As others have said, finding an internal modem that includes the
complete RS232 port circuitry is not an easy thing.  Most internal
modem cards exclude the RS232 port circuitry to reduce cost, and
rely on a custom-written Windows driver to know how to talk to the
card's non-standard interface.  With cost-cutting a key factor in
the design of internal modems, the manufacturers almost never write
Solaris drivers.  Only Windows.

So your chances of finding an internal modem that will work in a Sparc
system are very, very small.  That's why most people say to save the
hassle, connect an external modem, and get on with all the other things
you need to do.

  -Greg
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On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 23:42:00 +0000 (UTC), Greg Andrews <gerg@panix.com> wrote:
>hadi motamedi <motamedi24@gmail.com> writes:
>>Michael Vilain <vil...@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>>>hadi motamedi <motamed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Dear All
>>> > Can you please let me know how can I check for my internal modem on my
>>> > solaris8 machine?
>>> > Thank you
>>>
>>> If you have a Sparc system, the "internal modem" is most likely a real
>>> modem connected to a serial port. ?You can use tip or cu for that.
>>>
>>> If you have a PC box, chances are very slim that the modem will work on
>>> Solaris unless it's something that emulates a serial port. ?Most boxes
>>> have a modem but it's a "windows modem" which requires special drivers
>>> in windows to work. ?Those drivers aren't in Solaris. ?So, you have to
>>> write them or find them somewhere on the net. ?Good luck with that.
>>>
>>
>>So , according to you, using external modem on Sparc system is a must.
>>

>The trick is *finding* an internal modem for a Sparc system.

>As others have said, finding an internal modem that includes the
>complete RS232 port circuitry is not an easy thing.  Most internal
>modem cards exclude the RS232 port circuitry to reduce cost, and
>rely on a custom-written Windows driver to know how to talk to the
>card's non-standard interface.  With cost-cutting a key factor in
>the design of internal modems, the manufacturers almost never write
>Solaris drivers.  Only Windows.

>So your chances of finding an internal modem that will work in a Sparc
>system are very, very small.  That's why most people say to save the
>hassle, connect an external modem, and get on with all the other things
>you need to do.

Real 56K modems from the middle/late 90's are available -- I have one
collecting dust because I didn't sell it off while anybody might have
wanted the thing.  They tend to have the PC bus at the time, typically
ISA.

An external modem is the only way to go.  Or move within 1000 miles of
civilization and get broadband.

AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> writes:
>On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 23:42:00 +0000 (UTC), Greg Andrews <gerg@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>The trick is *finding* an internal modem for a Sparc system.
>
>
>Real 56K modems from the middle/late 90's are available -- I have one
>collecting dust because I didn't sell it off while anybody might have
>wanted the thing.  They tend to have the PC bus at the time, typically
>ISA.
>

Which Sparc systems had ISA buses?

  -Greg
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In article <i8fpah$boi$1@reader1.panix.com>,
	gerg@panix.com (Greg Andrews) writes:
> AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> writes:
>>On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 23:42:00 +0000 (UTC), Greg Andrews <gerg@panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>The trick is *finding* an internal modem for a Sparc system.
>>
>>
>>Real 56K modems from the middle/late 90's are available -- I have one
>>collecting dust because I didn't sell it off while anybody might have
>>wanted the thing.  They tend to have the PC bus at the time, typically
>>ISA.
>>
> 
> Which Sparc systems had ISA buses?

Well, the ebus is an LPC ISA bus, but there were
never any slots to plug more things into it, just
the integrated motherboard devices.

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On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 18:04:01 +0000 (UTC), Greg Andrews <gerg@panix.com> wrote:
>AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> writes:
>>On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 23:42:00 +0000 (UTC), Greg Andrews <gerg@panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>The trick is *finding* an internal modem for a Sparc system.
>>
>>
>>Real 56K modems from the middle/late 90's are available -- I have one
>>collecting dust because I didn't sell it off while anybody might have
>>wanted the thing.  They tend to have the PC bus at the time, typically
>>ISA.
>>

>Which Sparc systems had ISA buses?

Quit being a troll.

Here's the part you snipped which I was replying to:
>>> If you have a PC box, chances are very slim that the modem will work on
>>> Solaris unless it's something that emulates a serial port. ?Most boxes
>>> have a modem but it's a "windows modem" which requires special drivers
>>> in windows to work. ?Those drivers aren't in Solaris. ?So, you have to
>>> write them or find them somewhere on the net. ?Good luck with that.
>>

AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> writes:
>On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 18:04:01 +0000 (UTC), Greg Andrews <gerg@panix.com> wrote:
>>AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> writes:
>>>On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 23:42:00 +0000 (UTC), Greg Andrews <gerg@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The trick is *finding* an internal modem for a Sparc system.
>>>
>>>
>>>Real 56K modems from the middle/late 90's are available -- I have one
>>>collecting dust because I didn't sell it off while anybody might have
>>>wanted the thing.  They tend to have the PC bus at the time, typically
>>>ISA.
>>>
>
>>Which Sparc systems had ISA buses?
>
>Quit being a troll.
>
>Here's the part you snipped which I was replying to:
>>>> If you have a PC box, chances are very slim that the modem will work on
>>>> Solaris unless it's something that emulates a serial port. ?Most boxes
>>>> have a modem but it's a "windows modem" which requires special drivers
>>>> in windows to work. ?Those drivers aren't in Solaris. ?So, you have to
>>>> write them or find them somewhere on the net. ?Good luck with that.
>>>

My post was clearly about Sparc systems, which was the thread topic from
the beginning.

Why did you think replying to my post was appropriate when you weren't
responding to its content?  Why didn't you reply to Michael's post?

  -Greg
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