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What is the best browser available for Solaris.....&nbsp; I have Netscape
4.78 and it's pretty awful.
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Reply Nik 8/15/2003 1:49:14 PM 

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 14:49:14 +0100, Nik Player <nik.player@oracle.com> wrote:
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> What is the best browser available for Solaris.....&nbsp; I have Netscape
> 4.78 and it's pretty awful.
><p>Cheers&nbsp; Nik</html>

Please don't post html. And try mozilla or one of its derivatives.

A bientot
Paul
-- 
Paul Floyd                 http://paulf.free.fr (for what it's worth)
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Reply Paul 8/15/2003 2:04:16 PM 


Nik Player wrote:
> What is the best browser available for Solaris.....  I have Netscape 
> 4.78 and it's pretty awful.
> 
> Cheers  Nik
> 

You have Mozilla and Opera.  I prefer Opera, but that is just my 
personal preference.

Rakesh
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Reply Rakesh 8/15/2003 2:29:19 PM 

HI,

Nik Player wrote:
> What is the best browser available for Solaris.....  I have Netscape 
> 4.78 and it's pretty awful.
You have a SUN tuned/supported Mozilla 1.2.1 available from Sun which is 
in my opinion very good, also you can install it yourself from 
www.mozilla.org.

I use mozilla 1.5a which is a alpha that have not crashed yet and it 
been used for a week or two.

I would recommend the Sun tuned 1.2.1, then everything works 
out-of-the-box http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/browser/

/michael
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Reply Michael 8/15/2003 3:51:25 PM 

"Michael Laajanen" <michael_laajanen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1k7%a.20021$mU6.27671@newsb.telia.net...
> HI,
>
> Nik Player wrote:
> > What is the best browser available for Solaris.....  I have Netscape
> > 4.78 and it's pretty awful.
> You have a SUN tuned/supported Mozilla 1.2.1 available from Sun which is
> in my opinion very good, also you can install it yourself from
> www.mozilla.org.
>
> I use mozilla 1.5a which is a alpha that have not crashed yet and it
> been used for a week or two.
>
> I would recommend the Sun tuned 1.2.1, then everything works
> out-of-the-box http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/browser/
>
> /michael
>

I'll have to install Gnome just to get a decent browser  sigh!!!!!!!
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Reply Nik 8/15/2003 5:09:56 PM 

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:09:56 +0000, Nik Player wrote:

> 
> I'll have to install Gnome just to get a decent browser  sigh!!!!!!!

http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/netscape/get.html
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Reply Dave 8/15/2003 5:24:23 PM 

Nik Player wrote:
> "Michael Laajanen" <michael_laajanen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1k7%a.20021$mU6.27671@newsb.telia.net...
> 
>>HI,
>>
>>Nik Player wrote:
>>
>>>What is the best browser available for Solaris.....  I have Netscape
>>>4.78 and it's pretty awful.
>>
>>You have a SUN tuned/supported Mozilla 1.2.1 available from Sun which is
>>in my opinion very good, also you can install it yourself from
>>www.mozilla.org.
>>
>>I use mozilla 1.5a which is a alpha that have not crashed yet and it
>>been used for a week or two.
>>
>>I would recommend the Sun tuned 1.2.1, then everything works
>>out-of-the-box http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/browser/
>>
>>/michael
>>
> 
> 
> I'll have to install Gnome just to get a decent browser  sigh!!!!!!!
why?? the libraries for SUN mozilla is included and using mozilla from 
www.mozilla.org you can use SUN companion cd /opt/sfw/lib via a wrapper 
script. I don't use Gnome to to slow.


/michael
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Reply Michael 8/15/2003 6:19:25 PM 

Nik Player <nik.player@btinternet.com> wrote:

> "Michael Laajanen" <michael_laajanen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1k7%a.20021$mU6.27671@newsb.telia.net...
>> HI,
>>
>> Nik Player wrote:
>> > What is the best browser available for Solaris.....  I have Netscape
>> > 4.78 and it's pretty awful.
>> You have a SUN tuned/supported Mozilla 1.2.1 available from Sun which is
>> in my opinion very good, also you can install it yourself from
>> www.mozilla.org.
>>
>> I use mozilla 1.5a which is a alpha that have not crashed yet and it
>> been used for a week or two.
>>
>> I would recommend the Sun tuned 1.2.1, then everything works
>> out-of-the-box http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/browser/
>>
>> /michael
>>

> I'll have to install Gnome just to get a decent browser  sigh!!!!!!!

Mozilla does not depend on the Gnome libraries (well, most builds I
have used myself). It is required, however, to have GTK+ and GLIB.
Solaris 9 has both. You have to install those yourself on older
Solaris releases.


-akop
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Reply Akop 8/15/2003 11:59:01 PM 

Akop Pogosian <akopps+usenet@ocf.berkeley.edu> writes in comp.unix.solaris:
|Mozilla does not depend on the Gnome libraries (well, most builds I
|have used myself). It is required, however, to have GTK+ and GLIB.
|Solaris 9 has both. You have to install those yourself on older
|Solaris releases.

Sun's Mozilla builds use the gtk+ & glib 2.0 libraries, instead of the 
1.x versions delivered with Solaris 9.  The 2.0 libraries are available
via the Sun Netscape/Mozilla download page, the GNOME 2.0 download, or
in Solaris 9 8/03 and later (but not earlier).

-- 
________________________________________________________________________
Alan Coopersmith                              alanc@alum.calberkeley.org
http://www.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU/~alanc/       aka: Alan.Coopersmith@Sun.COM
  Working for, but definitely not speaking for, Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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Reply Alan 8/16/2003 1:43:03 AM 

"Alan Coopersmith" <alanc@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote in message
news:bhk277$9u8$1@agate.berkeley.edu...
> Akop Pogosian <akopps+usenet@ocf.berkeley.edu> writes in
comp.unix.solaris:
> |Mozilla does not depend on the Gnome libraries (well, most builds I
> |have used myself). It is required, however, to have GTK+ and GLIB.
> |Solaris 9 has both. You have to install those yourself on older
> |Solaris releases.
>
> Sun's Mozilla builds use the gtk+ & glib 2.0 libraries, instead of the
> 1.x versions delivered with Solaris 9.  The 2.0 libraries are available
> via the Sun Netscape/Mozilla download page, the GNOME 2.0 download, or
> in Solaris 9 8/03 and later (but not earlier).
>
> -- 
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Alan Coopersmith                              alanc@alum.calberkeley.org
> http://www.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU/~alanc/       aka: Alan.Coopersmith@Sun.COM
>   Working for, but definitely not speaking for, Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Sorry guys.......  I mis-read the docs, your right I only need the GTK 2
libs installed.  I will install gnome 2 anyway now to see what it's like.

Cheers for all your help (patience)
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Reply Nik 8/16/2003 11:39:25 AM 

"Philip Brown" <phil+s3@bolthole.no-bots.com> wrote in message
news:slrnbjttb4.1oo6.phil+s3@bolthole.com...
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 11:39:25 +0000 (UTC), nik.player@btinternet.com wrote:
> or, if you'd like mozilla 1.4, and dont want to bother with gnome 2, just
> get the package set from blastwave.org
>
>
>
> -- 
Installed gnome 2,  I like it, will keep it for now and see how it
goes........
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Reply Nik 8/17/2003 6:32:23 AM 

Rakesh Vidyadharan <rakesh@rakeshv.org> wrote in message news:<bhiqo5$m2d$1@news1.tribune.com>...
> Nik Player wrote:
> > What is the best browser available for Solaris.....  I have Netscape 
> > 4.78 and it's pretty awful.

FWIW, Netscape/Communicator 4.79 is better. It was the last of the Netscape 4
versions, and to me it was quite a bit more desirable than 4.78 .  It was
noticeably faster than 4.78 .

Granted, it's pretty long in the tooth now compared to Mozilla et al that are
Gecko-based, but I still use it when I want speed. It's a lot snappier than
e.g. Mozilla 1.x on the old machines that I am sometimes forced to use (e.g.
SS20 with SX) .  But if I visit a page that doesn't look right, or crashes in
a Java sort of way, I use Mozilla .

Mozilla is even slow when I run it on a reasonably fast machine (E450) but on
the SS20/SX $DISPLAY .  It's not clear to me why Mozilla is so much slower
than Netscape 4 in the same environment.

Griff
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Reply griff 9/2/2003 8:45:08 PM 

On 2 Sep 2003 13:45:08 -0700, Griff Miller <griff.miller@positron.com> wrote:
> Rakesh Vidyadharan <rakesh@rakeshv.org> wrote in message news:<bhiqo5$m2d$1@news1.tribune.com>...
> 
> Mozilla is even slow when I run it on a reasonably fast machine (E450) but on
> the SS20/SX $DISPLAY .  It's not clear to me why Mozilla is so much slower
> than Netscape 4 in the same environment.

Because Mozilla is a mish-mash of about a dozen technologies (IDL, C,
C++ for starters) accreted over a lengthy period by a rather loosely
knit band of developers.

A bientot
Paul
-- 
Paul Floyd                 http://paulf.free.fr (for what it's worth)
Surgery: ennobled Gerald.
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Reply Paul 9/2/2003 9:06:04 PM 

Griff Miller <griff.miller@positron.com> wrote:
>   > Nik Player wrote:
>   > > What is the best browser available for Solaris.....  I have Netscape 
>   > > 4.78 and it's pretty awful.
>   
>   FWIW, Netscape/Communicator 4.79 is better. It was the last of the Netscape 4
>   versions, and to me it was quite a bit more desirable than 4.78 .  It was
>   noticeably faster than 4.78 .
>   
>   Granted, it's pretty long in the tooth now...

	It's a very popular browser...if your name is Ogg.

-am	© 2003
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Reply Anthony 9/2/2003 9:58:22 PM 

In article <fd8079cc.0309021245.14473357@posting.google.com>,
Griff Miller <griff.miller@positron.com> wrote:
>FWIW, Netscape/Communicator 4.79 is better. It was the last of the Netscape 4
>versions, and to me it was quite a bit more desirable than 4.78 .  It was
>noticeably faster than 4.78 .

<URL:ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/english/4.8/>

I don't use it as I run 4.79 on Solaris SPARC and x86 and 4.8 is SPARC
only. 

>Mozilla is even slow when I run it on a reasonably fast machine (E450) but on
>the SS20/SX $DISPLAY .  It's not clear to me why Mozilla is so much slower

SUNWmoznav 1.2,REV=10.2003.07.29 runs ok on a Ultra 60, but the
head is dual P3 with a Matrox G550.
<URL:http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/browser/index.html>

You might also try a newer Mozilla such as CSWmozilla from Blastwave.ORG.

John
groenveld@acm.org
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Reply groenvel 9/3/2003 12:29:47 AM 

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Griff Miller wrote:

> Rakesh Vidyadharan <rakesh@rakeshv.org> wrote in message news:<bhiqo5$m2d$1@news1.tribune.com>...
> > Nik Player wrote:
> > > What is the best browser available for Solaris.....  I have Netscape
> > > 4.78 and it's pretty awful.
>
> FWIW, Netscape/Communicator 4.79 is better. It was the last of the Netscape 4
> versions, and to me it was quite a bit more desirable than 4.78 .  It was
> noticeably faster than 4.78 .
>
> Granted, it's pretty long in the tooth now compared to Mozilla et al that are
> Gecko-based, but I still use it when I want speed. It's a lot snappier than
> e.g. Mozilla 1.x on the old machines that I am sometimes forced to use (e.g.
> SS20 with SX) .  But if I visit a page that doesn't look right, or crashes in
> a Java sort of way, I use Mozilla .
>
> Mozilla is even slow when I run it on a reasonably fast machine (E450) but on
> the SS20/SX $DISPLAY .  It's not clear to me why Mozilla is so much slower
> than Netscape 4 in the same environment.
>
> Griff
>

Why not use Netscape 7? That works fine for me under SPARC/Solaris 9

application SUNWnsb              Netscape 7 for Solaris - Browser
application SUNWnsm              Netscape 7 for Solaris - Messenger
application SUNWnspsm            Netscape 7 for Solaris - PSM
application SUNWnsxp             Netscape 7 for Solaris - XPCOM

You can fetch that fand other stuff at http://www.sun.com/download
Direct link to it is
http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/netscape/getnetscape70.html

Opera works fine too, http://www.opera.com/ just get the statically linked
package to avoid qt lib probs :-)

application SCopera              opera

/Johan A
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Reply Mr 9/3/2003 1:12:54 PM 

In article <Pine.GSO.4.53.0309031503160.28954@krynn.solace.mh.se>,
Mr. Johan Andersson <johan@solace.mh.se> wrote:
>Why not use Netscape 7? That works fine for me under SPARC/Solaris 9

FYI Sun is moving to Mozilla and Netscape is no longer supporting Solaris.

John
groenveld@acm.org
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Reply groenvel 9/3/2003 7:04:47 PM 

Paul Floyd wrote:
> 
> On 2 Sep 2003 13:45:08 -0700, Griff Miller <griff.miller@positron.com> wrote:
> > Rakesh Vidyadharan <rakesh@rakeshv.org> wrote in message news:<bhiqo5$m2d$1@news1.tribune.com>...
> >
> > Mozilla is even slow when I run it on a reasonably fast machine (E450) but on
> > the SS20/SX $DISPLAY .  It's not clear to me why Mozilla is so much slower
> > than Netscape 4 in the same environment.
> 
> Because Mozilla is a mish-mash of about a dozen technologies (IDL, C,
> C++ for starters) accreted over a lengthy period by a rather loosely
> knit band of developers.

I did install 1.5b recently and it seems a tad faster. Maybe even 1.5 tads .

However, something is broken in the code that allows you to view news by
thread, unread, etc. It just doesn't work.

One thing I can't seem to get right in my builds of Mozilla is that the
Mozilla windows, when iconized, are ugly grayscale instead of color. I must
not be picking up some essential library when configure runs.

-- 
Griff Miller II                   | I  would   rather   be   exposed  to  the |
Manager of Information Technology | inconveniences    attending    too   much |
Positron Corporation              | liberty   than  to  those  attending  too |
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Reply Griff 9/3/2003 9:58:19 PM 

Anthony Mandic wrote:
> 
>         It's a very popular browser...if your name is Ogg.

That's Mr. Vorbis to you.  :)

-- 
Griff Miller II                   | I  would   rather   be   exposed  to  the |
Manager of Information Technology | inconveniences    attending    too   much |
Positron Corporation              | liberty   than  to  those  attending  too |
griff.miller@positron.com         | small a degree of it.  - Thomas Jefferson |
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Reply Griff 9/3/2003 9:58:59 PM 

"Mr. Johan Andersson" wrote:
> 
> Why not use Netscape 7?

Sun is shifting to Mozilla, yes?

-- 
Griff Miller II                   | There is no safety for honest men except  |
Manager of Information Technology | by believing all possible evil of evil    |
Positron Corporation              | men.  - Edmund Burke                      |
griff.miller@positron.com         |                                           |
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Reply Griff 9/3/2003 10:00:07 PM 

Griff Miller <griff.miller@positron.com> writes:

> "Mr. Johan Andersson" wrote:
>> 
>> Why not use Netscape 7?
>
> Sun is shifting to Mozilla, yes?

Funny there is no Solaris x86 version of either Firebird (stripped down
version of Mozilla sans mail and news) or of Mozilla 1.5b. Not much of a
shift. :-(

Bye, Dragan


-- 
Dragan Cvetkovic, 

To be or not to be is true. G. Boole      No it isn't.  L. E. J. Brouwer

!!! Sender/From address is bogus. Use reply-to one !!!
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Reply Dragan 9/3/2003 10:06:36 PM 

In article <lmd6ehr0gj.fsf@privacy.net>,
Dragan Cvetkovic  <dragan.usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
>Funny there is no Solaris x86 version of either Firebird (stripped down
>version of Mozilla sans mail and news) or of Mozilla 1.5b. Not much of a
>shift. :-(

Curtis Sasaki is evidently Mad as a Hatter and doesn't believe Solaris x86
is a desktop technology. :(

From the August 20th, Expert Exchange:
<URL:http://www.sun.com/expertexchange/>
John Groenveld, angry customer:
| I understand Mozilla will be bundled part of the Solaris OE. Smart
| move. However, Sun only contributes a Solaris sparc builds to
| Mozilla.org. If the Mozilla Community is seen as part of Sun's
| development and test team, why don't the engineers from Sun China ERI
| produce development builds for Solaris x86?

Chris Baker, Sr. Product Manager, Solaris x86:
| Mozilla 1.2.1 is available, and work is under way on future versions.
| The point about releasing x86 builds (which exist internally) is
| noted.


A shift is definitely needed.
John
groenveld@acm.org
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Reply groenvel 9/3/2003 11:30:43 PM 

John D Groenveld wrote:
> FYI Sun is moving to Mozilla and Netscape is no longer supporting Solaris.

Netscape is no longer supporting *anything*, right?

   - Logan
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Reply Logan 9/3/2003 11:45:49 PM 

In article <bj5tj3$n2n$1@wintermute.cse.psu.edu>, groenvel@cse.psu.edu (John D 
Groenveld) writes...
> In article <lmd6ehr0gj.fsf@privacy.net>,
> Dragan Cvetkovic  <dragan.usenet@gmx.net> wrote:
> >Funny there is no Solaris x86 version of either Firebird (stripped down
> >version of Mozilla sans mail and news) or of Mozilla 1.5b. Not much of a
> >shift. :-(
> 
> Curtis Sasaki is evidently Mad as a Hatter and doesn't believe Solaris x86
> is a desktop technology. :(
> 
> From the August 20th, Expert Exchange:
> <URL:http://www.sun.com/expertexchange/>
> John Groenveld, angry customer:
> | I understand Mozilla will be bundled part of the Solaris OE. Smart
> | move. However, Sun only contributes a Solaris sparc builds to
> | Mozilla.org. If the Mozilla Community is seen as part of Sun's
> | development and test team, why don't the engineers from Sun China ERI
> | produce development builds for Solaris x86?
> 
> Chris Baker, Sr. Product Manager, Solaris x86:
> | Mozilla 1.2.1 is available, and work is under way on future versions.
> | The point about releasing x86 builds (which exist internally) is
> | noted.
> 
> 
> A shift is definitely needed.
> John
> groenveld@acm.org


Maybe one of the problems is that Mozilla is going to dump the 
whole 1.4/1.5 series and do all the new stuff on "Firebird".

Might not be much point spending a bunch of effort porting
the traditional monolithic Mozilla variant when its days are
numbered anyway.



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Reply Philip 9/4/2003 4:42:45 AM 

Griff Miller <griff.miller@positron.com> wrote:
>   Anthony Mandic <mailto:am@peppler.org>
>   <mailto:anthony@isug.com>
>   <mailto:amandic@start.com.au> wrote:
>   > 
>   >         It's a very popular browser...if your name is Ogg.
>   
>   That's Mr. Vorbis to you.  :)

	Well, Ogg is state-of-the-art w/r codecs, I'm impressed.

	Got any fire I could borrow?

-am	© 2003
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Reply Anthony 9/4/2003 5:20:29 AM 


On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, John D Groenveld wrote:

> In article <Pine.GSO.4.53.0309031503160.28954@krynn.solace.mh.se>,
> Mr. Johan Andersson <johan@solace.mh.se> wrote:
> >Why not use Netscape 7? That works fine for me under SPARC/Solaris 9
>
> FYI Sun is moving to Mozilla and Netscape is no longer supporting Solaris.
>
> John
> groenveld@acm.org

Yes, Sun is moving towards Mozilla, but I still gave a working solution.
Compared to what he was using, its still a nice step up.

Netscape is no longer suporting Solaris, also true, it seems they are
content with the three platforms they have choosen.

But Netscape for Sun still works fine.

/Johan A
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Reply Mr 9/4/2003 7:41:53 AM 

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 14:49:14 +0100, Nik Player wrote:

> <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
> <html>
> What is the best browser available for Solaris.....&nbsp; I have Netscape
> 4.78 and it's pretty awful.
> <p>Cheers&nbsp; Nik</html>


I know, people have been over this before, but MSIE 5 for UNIX is not bad,
and if the user sets preferences intelligently (e.g. don't trust email,
don't trust web-sites, verify the origins of all scripts, et al), it is no
less secure than mozilla and company. To me, it has a more finished feel,
less of a hacked together project.
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