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network within a network

I am a college student living in a duplex.  Our whole duplex has one
internet connection.  I have a laptop with a wireless card and a
ethernet card.  I use the wireless card to access the internet.  I also
have a desktop with only a ethernet card that i am trying to connect to
my laptop.  Im trying to make my own network to share the internet
connection with my desktop.  My problem arises when i try to make my
laptop the host to my network, i think it tries to take the 192.168.0.1
ip address which is already taken by the router ( in other apartment).
so i get ip address conflictions. Any help would be greatly
appreciated...Ryan

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"swampersully" <swampersully@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I am a college student living in a duplex.  Our whole duplex has one
> internet connection.  I have a laptop with a wireless card and a
> ethernet card.  I use the wireless card to access the internet.  I also
> have a desktop with only a ethernet card that i am trying to connect to
> my laptop.  Im trying to make my own network to share the internet
> connection with my desktop.  My problem arises when i try to make my
> laptop the host to my network, i think it tries to take the 192.168.0.1
> ip address which is already taken by the router ( in other apartment).
> so i get ip address conflictions. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated...Ryan

Ok so there are two "routers" between your Desktop PC and the Internet ...
Your laptop is acting as a router for your local LAN (I assume it's got ICS
running) plus there is the wireless one. See this page for how to allocate
IP addresses on a network with two routers.

http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article51-page1.php

Essentially nodes on your your local LAN needs a base IP like 192.168.1.x
rather than 192.168.0.x  Check that nobody else is doing the same thing. You
might need to use 192.168.3.x etc

I think you want to assign the wired port on the laptop a static IP in this
new range (eg 192.168.1.x) but have the desktop desktop get an IP from the
laptop using DHCP. I'm not sure how to do this as I avoid messing with ICS.






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CWatters
10/20/2005 8:11:21 AM
"CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
news:JiI5f.27631$li.1196147@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
 > I think you want to assign the wired port on the laptop a static IP in
this
> new range (eg 192.168.1.x) but have the desktop desktop get an IP from the
> laptop using DHCP. I'm not sure how to do this as I avoid messing with
ICS.

Humm. I've seen some web sites that say it's not possible to change the base
address ICS uses. eg it's fixed at 192.168.0.x

May have to do some more googling.


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CWatters
10/20/2005 8:20:46 AM
"CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
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>
> "CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
> news:JiI5f.27631$li.1196147@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
>  > I think you want to assign the wired port on the laptop a static IP in
> this
> > new range (eg 192.168.1.x) but have the desktop desktop get an IP from
the
> > laptop using DHCP. I'm not sure how to do this as I avoid messing with
> ICS.
>
> Humm. I've seen some web sites that say it's not possible to change the
base
> address ICS uses. eg it's fixed at 192.168.0.x
>
> May have to do some more googling.
>

Ok it seems to be fixed with ICS. In which case I think an alternative is a
bridge... eg Set up a bridge between the wired and wireless ports on the
laptop. This making your local net part of the 192.168.0.x net.

More here ...
http://www.techexams.net/technotes/xp/ics_icf.shtml
This IP configuration is mandatory and automatically implies the limitation
of ICS: the DHCP component of ICS can assign IP address from the class C
network 192.168.0.0 /24 only (range 192.168.0.2 -192.168.0.254). If you want
to share an Internet connection amongst more than 253 computers, or for
other, or multiple subnets, you will need to implement NAT included in RRAS
on a Windows 2000/2003 Server. However, it is possible to have two internal
network cards, which allows you to share the Internet connection with
computers attached to a different network medium, e.g. an internal interface
connected to a wired Ethernet network and an internal interface for wireless
clients. To make this configuration work, you will need to create a network
bridge between the two internal interfaces. The available private IP
addresses will be assigned to computers on both internal segments.



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CWatters
10/20/2005 8:28:34 AM
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:28:34 GMT, "CWatters"
<colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote:

>Ok it seems to be fixed with ICS. In which case I think an alternative is a
>bridge... eg Set up a bridge between the wired and wireless ports on the
>laptop. This making your local net part of the 192.168.0.x net.

Assuming he's using winxp on the laptop, the bridge is definately the
way to go.

If it's not xp, it will need configuration of the laptop to a static
address outside the router's dhcp range (shouldn't be difficult),
putting the laptop wired ethernet card and the desktop on a separate
subnet (say) 192.168.1.0 (no problem) and running a proxy server on
the laptop like the free one from analogx.
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/proxy.htm


Jim.

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James
10/20/2005 12:07:25 PM
Buy a cheap linksys or dlink router. Set the WAN side with an available
192.168.0.x address (or if dhcp is enabled on the apartment network set
it to dynamic). Plug the cable that you use  for your internet
connection into the wan port. Set the LAN IP on the router to any
private address space besides 192.168.0.x. Make sure DHCP is enabled
for the LAN on the router. You should then be able to plug in your
desktop to the routers available LAN ports and get through to the
192.168.0.x subnet.

Think of the apartment network as your ISP and it should be pretty
clear what you have to do.

psg

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chrispsg
10/26/2005 3:28:31 AM
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