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Why I Will Most Likely Never Switch to Linux. Aside from the fact Linux Sucks.

Let's be honest, compared to the offerings of OSX and Windows, Linux sucks =
badly. But that's not the reason why it's highly unlikely I will ever use L=
inux. The real reason is the Linux user base. I'm not certain of the reason=
s why, but it's quite clear that Linux does seem to attract the most unruly=
, ignorant, brainwashed users. Spend 10 minutes in just about any Linux use=
r blog (2 minutes for COLA) and it's obvious that many of these Linux users=
 are suffering from some kind of mental affliction. These Linux users are t=
ruly miserable, nasty, pompous, self edifying users all wrapped up in their=
 own form of bloviation.

So why would I want to be associated with the likes of these kinds of peopl=
e?
I don't.
Which is why I will most likely never use Linux.
I use a Windows machine.
I have a BlackBerry phone.
And so forth.

The Android community is almost as nasty as the Linux community. They are n=
ot quite at the maximum level of idiocy, but they are getting there.

Even the Mac fangurls aren't as bad as the Linux community.=20
They are zealots, but friendly zealots.
I just ignore them and they soon figure out I don't want any Apple devices.

Linux users are not like that.
They will call you names, attack you for expressing your opinion, which is =
odd seeing as they are supposed to be champions of free choice, and when yo=
u don't agree with them they will discredit you by any means possible.

This is a symptom of mentally ill behavior.

Welcome to Linux and the world of Linux and Open Source Software.
Get used to it or move on.
Most people move on. Rather quickly in fact.
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:17:51 -0700 (PDT), jlungo33@gmail.com wrote:

> Let's be honest, compared to the offerings of OSX and Windows, Linux sucks badly. But that's not the reason why it's highly unlikely I will ever use Linux. The real reason is the Linux user base. I'm not certain of the reasons why, but it's quite clear that Linux does seem to attract the most unruly, ignorant, brainwashed users. Spend 10 minutes in just about any Linux user blog (2 minutes for COLA) and it's obvious that many of these Linux users are suffering from some kind of mental affliction. These Linux users are truly miserable, nasty, pompous, self edifying users all wrapped up in their own form of bloviation.
> 
> So why would I want to be associated with the likes of these kinds of people?
> I don't.
> Which is why I will most likely never use Linux.
> I use a Windows machine.
> I have a BlackBerry phone.
> And so forth.
> 
> The Android community is almost as nasty as the Linux community. They are not quite at the maximum level of idiocy, but they are getting there.
> 
> Even the Mac fangurls aren't as bad as the Linux community. 
> They are zealots, but friendly zealots.
> I just ignore them and they soon figure out I don't want any Apple devices.
> 
> Linux users are not like that.
> They will call you names, attack you for expressing your opinion, which is odd seeing as they are supposed to be champions of free choice, and when you don't agree with them they will discredit you by any means possible.
> 
> This is a symptom of mentally ill behavior.
> 
> Welcome to Linux and the world of Linux and Open Source Software.
> Get used to it or move on.
> Most people move on. Rather quickly in fact.

Not all Linux users are morons.
Most are, but not all of them.
Look for a local LUG and learn about Linux there.
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Tomas
7/24/2014 11:31:09 PM
On 7/24/14, 4:31 PM, in article btiaja5hgrev.14b1dv1houtvm$.dlg@40tude.net,
"Tomas" <tgif9fri@numo.net> wrote:

>> Welcome to Linux and the world of Linux and Open Source Software.
>> Get used to it or move on.
>> Most people move on. Rather quickly in fact.
> 
> Not all Linux users are morons.
> Most are, but not all of them.
> Look for a local LUG and learn about Linux there.

There are many wonderful Linux users... sadly COLA has few of them.


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* Mavericks / Pages 5.1:            <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>



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Snit
7/24/2014 11:42:27 PM
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:17:51 -0700, jlungo33 wrote:

> Let's be honest, compared to the offerings of OSX and Windows, Linux
> sucks badly. 

Compared to Linux, Windows sucks dead donkey balls, but that - like your 
pronouncement - is a matter of opinion.  Somewhat better-backed opinion, 
given the nearly countless bits of Windows-specific malware out there, 
but still opinion.

Care to try again?

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Kelsey
7/25/2014 7:16:16 AM
On 25/07/2014 08:16, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:17:51 -0700, jlungo33 wrote:
>
>> Let's be honest, compared to the offerings of OSX and Windows, Linux
>> sucks badly.
>
> Compared to Linux, Windows sucks dead donkey balls, but that - like your

So if Windows is that bad and Linux is better, why has Windows got a 
desktop market share in excess of 85% and yet Linux can only manage to 
scrape just over 1%?

Why is that?
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Desk
7/25/2014 9:32:04 AM
On 07/24/2014 08:17 PM, jlungo33@gmail.com wrote:
> Let's be honest, compared to the offerings of OSX and Windows, Linux sucks badly. But that's not the reason why it's highly unlikely I will ever use Linux. The real reason is the Linux user base. I'm not certain of the reasons why, but it's quite clear that Linux does seem to attract the most unruly, ignorant, brainwashed users. Spend 10 minutes in just about any Linux user blog (2 minutes for COLA) and it's obvious that many of these Linux users are suffering from some kind of mental affliction. These Linux users are truly miserable, nasty, pompous, self edifying users all wrapped up in their own form of bloviation.
>
> So why would I want to be associated with the likes of these kinds of people?
> I don't.
> Which is why I will most likely never use Linux.
> I use a Windows machine.
> I have a BlackBerry phone.
> And so forth.
>
> The Android community is almost as nasty as the Linux community. They are not quite at the maximum level of idiocy, but they are getting there.
>
> Even the Mac fangurls aren't as bad as the Linux community.
> They are zealots, but friendly zealots.
> I just ignore them and they soon figure out I don't want any Apple devices.
>
> Linux users are not like that.
> They will call you names, attack you for expressing your opinion, which is odd seeing as they are supposed to be champions of free choice, and when you don't agree with them they will discredit you by any means possible.
>
> This is a symptom of mentally ill behavior.
>
> Welcome to Linux and the world of Linux and Open Source Software.
> Get used to it or move on.
> Most people move on. Rather quickly in fact.
>

Reading between the lines, I am getting a strong sense that you are 
suffering from some serious mental health issues.

It seems like the Linux cats have delivered some severe kicks to your 
vitalities. My advice is don't mess with them. Instead, play with the 
Mac fangurls, they play very very nice.
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sbd
7/25/2014 9:47:39 AM
jlungo33@gmail.com wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

>

That is what you and frettzy and phlatso really need to be saying.

Although the nasty things you all say immediately clue in anyone who
stumbles upon your ravings and filth.

Buh bye, putz.

-- 
She stood on the tracks
Waving her arms
Leading me to that third rail shock
Quick as a wink
She changed her mind
 
She gave me a night
That's all it was
What will it take until I stop
Kidding myself
Wasting my time
 
There's nothing else I can do
'Cause I'm doing it all for Leyna
I don't want anyone new
'Cause I'm living it all for Leyna
There's nothing in it for you
'Cause I'm giving it all to Leyna
		-- Billy Joel, "All for Leyna" (Glass Houses)
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Chris
7/25/2014 9:56:49 AM
Kelsey Bjarnason wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:17:51 -0700, jlungo33 wrote:
>
>> Let's be honest, compared to the offerings of OSX and Windows, Linux
>> sucks badly. 
>
> Compared to Linux, Windows sucks dead donkey balls, but that - like your 
> pronouncement - is a matter of opinion.  Somewhat better-backed opinion, 
> given the nearly countless bits of Windows-specific malware out there, 
> but still opinion.
>
> Care to try again?

   http://claudecat17.tumblr.com/post/92576404571/two-years-with-debian-gnu-linux-an-average-guys

He has some minor issues, but concludes:

   This got much longer than I anticipated, with lots of repetition, so I’ll
   cut it short by concluding that I’ve found Debian, the now stable version
   known as Wheezy, to be a joy to use. Solid as a rock, reliable and
   unchanging, able to do everything I need. What more could anyone want,
   aside from better battery life on laptops? And it’s Linux, so it’s
   inherently more secure, less prone to a myriad of issues, and less
   irksome in general principle than Windows or the Mac. Just one idiot’s
   experience, your mileage may vary.

I use Debian unstable, so the "unchanging" part isn't so true, but, like
him, I find it a joy to use and work with.  I understand why some people
"prefer" Windows, in the same way I understand why some people wear overly
tight clothes.  But, even in the small amount of time I spend in Windows, I
miss:

   -  Virtual desktops correctly implemented.
   -  Good console support:
      -  Console windows that are fast and completely configurable.
      -  Terminal multiplexors like tmux and GNU screen.
      -  Great shells like Bash (try as I will, I can't bring myself to like
         PowerShell, and it often has weird pauses).
   -  Window decorations that are infinitely adjustable, and can be turned
      off if you like.
   -  The GNU compiler.  Sure, you can use it with MSYS and MingW on
      Windows, but that crappy DOS console attenuates the experience.
      The Microsoft compiler is good, if a little slow to catch up to C++11
      standards, but the IDE is *still* a dog.
   -  valgrind.
   -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
      speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its single
      kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its Update
      system is amazingly slow.

As for audio/video, I don't even bother with 'em in Windows anymore.

-- 
Knock Knock...  (who's there?)  Ether!  (ether who?)  Ether Bunny... Yea!
[chorus]
	Yeay!
	Stay on the Happy side, always on the happy side,
	Stay on the Happy side of life!
	Bum bum bum bum bum bum
	You will feel no pain, as we drive you insane,
	So Stay on the Happy Side of life!

Knock Knock...  (who's there?)  Anna!  (anna who?)
	An another ether bunny... [chorus]
Knock Knock...  (who's there?)  Stilla!  (stilla who?)
	Still another ether bunny... [chorus]
Knock Knock...  (who's there?)  Yetta!  (yetta who?)
	Yet another ether bunny... [chorus]
Knock Knock...  (who's there?)  Cargo!  (cargo who?)
	Cargo beep beep and run over ether bunny... [chorus]
Knock Knock...  (who's there?)  Boo!  (boo who?)
	Don't Cry!  Ether bunny be back next year! [chorus]
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Chris
7/25/2014 10:21:00 AM
sbd wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 07/24/2014 08:17 PM, jlungo33@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>
> Reading between the lines, I am getting a strong sense that you are 
> suffering from some serious mental health issues.

You pegged him.  Who but a nutcase would spend his time nym-shifting
and dogging the fans of a great operating system, usually via some form of
nastiness?

> It seems like the Linux cats have delivered some severe kicks to your 
> vitalities. My advice is don't mess with them. Instead, play with the 
> Mac fangurls, they play very very nice.

Uh, no they don't.  They get pretty nasty, too.

-- 
Automobile, n.:
	A four-wheeled vehicle that runs up hills and down pedestrians.
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Chris
7/25/2014 10:23:39 AM
This is the flibby-dabby-dee service of the BBC, & here is a photograph
of Chris Ahlstrom saying:

> sbd wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 07/24/2014 08:17 PM, jlungo33@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>> Reading between the lines, I am getting a strong sense that you are 
>> suffering from some serious mental health issues.
>
> You pegged him.  Who but a nutcase would spend his time nym-shifting
> and dogging the fans of a great operating system, usually via some form of
> nastiness?

And who bothers to waste their time responding to such nutcases. Had
"sdb" not responded, I wouldn't hav eseen the gurglegroper's shite.

>> It seems like the Linux cats have delivered some severe kicks to your 
>> vitalities. My advice is don't mess with them. Instead, play with the 
>> Mac fangurls, they play very very nice.
>
> Uh, no they don't.  They get pretty nasty, too.

Then they deserve each other IMO.

-- 
Spider, spider on the wall.
Ain't you got no sense at all?
Can't you see the walls been plastered?
Now you're stuck you silly bastard!
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William
7/25/2014 11:51:25 AM
Tomas wrote:

>Look for a 

*plonk*

-- 
'(The GPL) is not easy and it most certainly does not mean "freedom".'
-  "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark
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chrisv
7/25/2014 12:09:26 PM
William Poaster wrote:

>And who bothers to waste their time responding to such nutcases. 

Exactly.  Anyone who can't immediately determine what worthless filth
trolls in here isn't worth saving.

>Had "sdb" not responded, I wouldn't hav eseen the gurglegroper's shite.

I've had "sdb" plonked for quite a while, due to his troll feeding and
quoting.

-- 
"There is a reason that a lot of the applications in the GNU/Linux
ecosystem aren't 1.0 yet and it has everything to do with the fact
that they're buggy pieces of crap."  -  "Slimer"
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chrisv
7/25/2014 12:13:32 PM
On Thursday, July 24, 2014 7:17:51 PM UTC-4, jlun...@gmail.com wrote:
> Let's be honest, compared to the offerings of OSX and Windows, Linux suck=
s badly. But that's not the reason why it's highly unlikely I will ever use=
 Linux. The real reason is the Linux user base. I'm not certain of the reas=
ons why, but it's quite clear that Linux does seem to attract the most unru=
ly, ignorant, brainwashed users. Spend 10 minutes in just about any Linux u=
ser blog (2 minutes for COLA) and it's obvious that many of these Linux use=
rs are suffering from some kind of mental affliction. These Linux users are=
 truly miserable, nasty, pompous, self edifying users all wrapped up in the=
ir own form of bloviation.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> So why would I want to be associated with the likes of these kinds of peo=
ple?
>=20
> I don't.
>=20
> Which is why I will most likely never use Linux.
>=20
> I use a Windows machine.
>=20
> I have a BlackBerry phone.
>=20
> And so forth.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> The Android community is almost as nasty as the Linux community. They are=
 not quite at the maximum level of idiocy, but they are getting there.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Even the Mac fangurls aren't as bad as the Linux community.=20
>=20
> They are zealots, but friendly zealots.
>=20
> I just ignore them and they soon figure out I don't want any Apple device=
s.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Linux users are not like that.
>=20
> They will call you names, attack you for expressing your opinion, which i=
s odd seeing as they are supposed to be champions of free choice, and when =
you don't agree with them they will discredit you by any means possible.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> This is a symptom of mentally ill behavior.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Welcome to Linux and the world of Linux and Open Source Software.
>=20
> Get used to it or move on.
>=20
> Most people move on. Rather quickly in fact.



I would tend to agree.  Linux appears to this Windoze user, to be a world o=
f loony kooks.

I would describe the basic problem as a classic example of too many cooks s=
poiling the broth.  Linux has too many options, too many badly designed web=
sites promoting it, too many people who could not communicate in English te=
xt if their life depended upon it, too many liars, and most of all too many=
 crappy programs to wade through in their so called program repositories of=
 mostly garbage.

Which translates into anybody brave enough to dabble in Linux better be pre=
pared to waste a hell of a lot of time cause these Linux SOBs are certifiab=
ly crazy, IMHO.
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john
7/25/2014 12:49:43 PM
john.h.gohde@gmail.com wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

>

Oh, you're *so* noble.  <rolls eyes>

Buh bye, sock puppet.

-- 
One of the major difficulties Trillian experienced in her relationship with
Zaphod was learning to distinguish between him pretending to be stupid just
to get people off their guard, pretending to be stupid because he couldn't
be bothered to think and wanted someone else to do it for him, pretending
to be so outrageously stupid to hide the fact that he actually didn't understand
hat was going on, and really being genuinely stupid.  He was reknowned for
being quite clever and quite clearly was so -- but not all the time, which
obviously worried him, hence the act.  He preferred people to be puzzled
rather than contemptuous.  This above all appeared to Trillian to be
genuinely stupid, but she could no longer be bothered to argue about.
		-- Douglas Adams, _The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_
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Chris
7/25/2014 1:26:07 PM
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>john.h.gohde@gmail.com wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>>
>
>Oh, you're *so* noble.  <rolls eyes>
>
>Buh bye, sock puppet.

You read it?  I see an one-time nym like that, and the post gets a
quick strike of the delete key.  Unread, of course.

-- 
"If a salesperson ever says 'Linux' to me as though it's some sort of
positive, he will lose a sale immediately. If he insists that it's
good, he will receive a punch to the jaw."  -  "Slimer"
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chrisv
7/25/2014 1:49:24 PM
chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>>john.h.gohde@gmail.com wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>Oh, you're *so* noble.  <rolls eyes>
>>
>>Buh bye, sock puppet.
>
> You read it?  I see an one-time nym like that, and the post gets a
> quick strike of the delete key.  Unread, of course.

We all react differently to idiots.  I still tend to be a bit
indulgent of the nasty little urchins.  I must rectify this weakness I have,
for being avuncular.  :-D

> -- 
> "If a salesperson ever says 'Linux' to me as though it's some sort of
> positive, he will lose a sale immediately. If he insists that it's
> good, he will receive a punch to the jaw."  -  "Slimer"

-- 
To generalize is to be an idiot.
		-- William Blake
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Chris
7/25/2014 2:03:52 PM
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
>>
>> You read it?  I see an one-time nym like that, and the post gets a
>> quick strike of the delete key.  Unread, of course.
>
>We all react differently to idiots.  I still tend to be a bit
>indulgent of the nasty little urchins.  I must rectify this weakness I have,
>for being avuncular.  :-D

To each his own, but I'm sure not going to teach the puerile shitwits
that bypassing my filters is as easy as changing nyms...

-- 
"Like rats, the GNU/Clowns will attack it and claim that it is some
sort of evidence that Windows is dying but as a touch-enabled
operating system which tries to be everything for everyone, Windows 8
is magnificent."  -  "Slimer"
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chrisv
7/25/2014 2:19:06 PM
On Friday, July 25, 2014 9:26:07 AM UTC-4, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> john.h.gohde@gmail.com wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
> 
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Oh, you're *so* noble.  <rolls eyes>
> 
> 
> 
> Buh bye, sock puppet.



Typical, nonsensical, condescending, bug-eye response of the Linux Loony Bins.
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john
7/25/2014 3:17:47 PM
On Friday, July 25, 2014 9:49:24 AM UTC-4, chrisv wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >john.h.gohde@gmail.com wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
> >
> 
> >>
> 
> >
> 
> >Oh, you're *so* noble.  <rolls eyes>
> 
> >
> 
> >Buh bye, sock puppet.
> 
> 
> 
> You read it?  I see an one-time nym like that, and the post gets a
> 
> quick strike of the delete key.  Unread, of course.



Typical, nonsensical, condescending, bug-eye response of the Linux Loony Bins.
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john
7/25/2014 3:18:34 PM
On Friday, July 25, 2014 10:03:52 AM UTC-4, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
> 
> 
> > Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> >>john.h.gohde@gmail.com wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
> >>
> 
> >>Oh, you're *so* noble.  <rolls eyes>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>Buh bye, sock puppet.
> 
> >
> 
> > You read it?  I see an one-time nym like that, and the post gets a
> 
> > quick strike of the delete key.  Unread, of course.
> 
> 
> 
> We all react differently to idiots.  I still tend to be a bit
> 
> indulgent of the nasty little urchins.  I must rectify this weakness I have,
> 
> for being avuncular.  :-D
> 
> 
> 
> > -- 
> 
> > "If a salesperson ever says 'Linux' to me as though it's some sort of
> 
> > positive, he will lose a sale immediately. If he insists that it's
> 
> > good, he will receive a punch to the jaw."  -  "Slimer"




Typical, nonsensical, condescending, bug-eye response of the Linux Loony Bins.
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john
7/25/2014 3:19:18 PM
On Friday, July 25, 2014 10:19:06 AM UTC-4, chrisv wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > chrisv wrote:
> 
> >>
> 
> >> You read it?  I see an one-time nym like that, and the post gets a
> 
> >> quick strike of the delete key.  Unread, of course.
> 
> >
> 
> >We all react differently to idiots.  I still tend to be a bit
> 
> >indulgent of the nasty little urchins.  I must rectify this weakness I have,
> 
> >for being avuncular.  :-D
> 
> 
> 
> To each his own, but I'm sure not going to teach the puerile shitwits
> 
> that bypassing my filters is as easy as changing nyms...
\




Typical, nonsensical, condescending, bug-eye response of the Linux Loony Bins.
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john
7/25/2014 3:20:10 PM
john.h.gohde@gmail.com wrote:

> (unread)

*plonk*

Happy now?

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chrisv
7/25/2014 3:23:57 PM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:17:47 -0700 (PDT), john.h.gohde@gmail.com
wrote:

> On Friday, July 25, 2014 9:26:07 AM UTC-4, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> john.h.gohde@gmail.com wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Oh, you're *so* noble.  <rolls eyes>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Buh bye, sock puppet.
> 
> 
> 
> Typical, nonsensical, condescending, bug-eye response of the Linux Loony Bins.

What can you expect?
The Cult Of Linux(™)is not wired to accept, understand or fix the
many problems with their operating system, Linux. They prefer to
display their collective mental illness and bury their heads up each
other's ass so as not to have to deal with reality.
It's one reason why Linux sucks horribly.
Instead of fixing the problems, deny these problems exist.

The Cult Of Linux(™) attracts the low self esteem, ADD/ADHD, ASPIE
types who need the support of others like themselves. It's probably a
good thing that they seem to have found each other because the
thought of these losers loose in the streets is somewhat troubling.

I would suggest spending some time in comp.os.linux.advocacy poking
these idiots and watching them react. It's more fun than going into a
weight loss group and telling them you are too skinny and need to
gain weight.

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Tomas
7/25/2014 3:30:54 PM
On Friday, July 25, 2014 11:30:54 AM UTC-4, Tomas wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:17:47 -0700 (PDT), john.h.gohde@gmail.com
> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On Friday, July 25, 2014 9:26:07 AM UTC-4, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> 
> >> john.h.gohde@gmail.com wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >>>
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> Oh, you're *so* noble.  <rolls eyes>
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> Buh bye, sock puppet.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Typical, nonsensical, condescending, bug-eye response of the Linux Loony Bins.
> 
> 
> 
> What can you expect?
> 
> The Cult Of Linux((tm))is not wired to accept, understand or fix the
> 
> many problems with their operating system, Linux. They prefer to
> 
> display their collective mental illness and bury their heads up each
> 
> other's ass so as not to have to deal with reality.
> 
> It's one reason why Linux sucks horribly.
> 
> Instead of fixing the problems, deny these problems exist.
> 
> 
> 
> The Cult Of Linux((tm)) attracts the low self esteem, ADD/ADHD, ASPIE
> 
> types who need the support of others like themselves. It's probably a
> 
> good thing that they seem to have found each other because the
> 
> thought of these losers loose in the streets is somewhat troubling.
> 
> 
> 
> I would suggest spending some time in comp.os.linux.advocacy poking
> these idiots and watching them react. It's more fun than going into a
> weight loss group and telling them you are too skinny and need to
> gain weight.



I agree.

They already exposed themselves as having piss-poor judgement when they called me a sock puppet.

Perhaps, if they actually wrote about Linux, rather than on Chromebooks and everything else?
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John
7/25/2014 4:23:43 PM
On 25/07/2014 17:23, John Gohde wrote:
> On Friday, July 25, 2014 11:30:54 AM UTC-4, Tomas wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:17:47 -0700 (PDT), john.h.gohde@gmail.com
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Friday, July 25, 2014 9:26:07 AM UTC-4, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>>> john.h.gohde@gmail.com wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Oh, you're *so* noble.  <rolls eyes>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Buh bye, sock puppet.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Typical, nonsensical, condescending, bug-eye response of the Linux Loony Bins.
>>
>>
>>
>> What can you expect?
>>
>> The Cult Of Linux((tm))is not wired to accept, understand or fix the
>>
>> many problems with their operating system, Linux. They prefer to
>>
>> display their collective mental illness and bury their heads up each
>>
>> other's ass so as not to have to deal with reality.
>>
>> It's one reason why Linux sucks horribly.
>>
>> Instead of fixing the problems, deny these problems exist.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Cult Of Linux((tm)) attracts the low self esteem, ADD/ADHD, ASPIE
>>
>> types who need the support of others like themselves. It's probably a
>>
>> good thing that they seem to have found each other because the
>>
>> thought of these losers loose in the streets is somewhat troubling.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would suggest spending some time in comp.os.linux.advocacy poking
>> these idiots and watching them react. It's more fun than going into a
>> weight loss group and telling them you are too skinny and need to
>> gain weight.
>
>
>
> I agree.
>
> They already exposed themselves as having piss-poor judgement when they called me a sock puppet.
>
> Perhaps, if they actually wrote about Linux, rather than on Chromebooks and everything else?
>

Any new arrival with a view that doesn't match theirs is immediately 
treated to the same response you got - Insults, denial and heads up arses.

They did the same to me but if you hang around, you'll recognise the 
same tired old blinkered loons and you'll learn to ignore them.

There is occasionaly a burst of intelligent conversation which they will 
do their best to destroy with some childish playground behaviour but I 
believe that if we ignore them, we can have a good advocacy group here.

My stance is to chose the right OS for the right job. Most of the time 
that's Windows but I also run quite a few Linux servers and use & 
support Macs.

Welcome to COLA!
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Desk
7/25/2014 5:15:20 PM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 00:16:16 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:17:51 -0700, jlungo33 wrote:
> 
>> Let's be honest, compared to the offerings of OSX and Windows, Linux
>> sucks badly.
> 
> Compared to Linux, Windows sucks dead donkey balls, but that - like your
> pronouncement - is a matter of opinion.  Somewhat better-backed opinion,
> given the nearly countless bits of Windows-specific malware out there,
> but still opinion.
> 
> Care to try again?

Can you imagine the crap Microsoft would be foisting on the world if Linux 
hadn't taken over the embedded market, the smartphone market, the tablet 
market, the supercomputer market, and a large chunk of the server market? 

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RonB
7/25/2014 5:59:20 PM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 05:49:43 -0700, john.h.gohde wrote:

> I would tend to agree.  Linux appears to this Windoze user, to be a
> world of loony kooks.

Says the new nym, who is full of shit.

(Subject Line corrected to reflect reality.)

BTW, "gohde," goodbye.

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RonB
7/25/2014 6:05:20 PM
On 7/25/14, 10:59 AM, in article lqu5tn$4qq$1@dont-email.me, "RonB"
<ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 00:16:16 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:17:51 -0700, jlungo33 wrote:
>> 
>>> Let's be honest, compared to the offerings of OSX and Windows, Linux
>>> sucks badly.
>> 
>> Compared to Linux, Windows sucks dead donkey balls, but that - like your
>> pronouncement - is a matter of opinion.  Somewhat better-backed opinion,
>> given the nearly countless bits of Windows-specific malware out there,
>> but still opinion.
>> 
>> Care to try again?
> 
> Can you imagine the crap Microsoft would be foisting on the world if Linux
> hadn't taken over the embedded market, the smartphone market, the tablet
> market, the supercomputer market, and a large chunk of the server market?

I am sure you can imagine all sorts of scenarios you cannot support...


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Snit
7/25/2014 6:30:15 PM
On 7/25/14, 10:15 AM, in article lqu3b8$j1q$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org,
"Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote:

>> I agree.
>> 
>> They already exposed themselves as having piss-poor judgement when they
>> called me a sock puppet.
>> 
>> Perhaps, if they actually wrote about Linux, rather than on Chromebooks and
>> everything else?
>> 
> 
> Any new arrival with a view that doesn't match theirs is immediately
> treated to the same response you got - Insults, denial and heads up arses.

And if the new arrival shows signs of being able to use logic, reason,
evidence, and data they are deemed to be my sock - which is odd given how I
have never posted to COLA with any name other than "Snit". Many in COLA
cannot imagine anyone else other than me actually being able to use logic
and data... which says a lot about the folks in COLA.

> They did the same to me but if you hang around, you'll recognise the
> same tired old blinkered loons and you'll learn to ignore them.
> 
> There is occasionaly a burst of intelligent conversation which they will
> do their best to destroy with some childish playground behaviour but I
> believe that if we ignore them, we can have a good advocacy group here.
> 
> My stance is to chose the right OS for the right job. Most of the time
> that's Windows but I also run quite a few Linux servers and use &
> support Macs.

My stance exactly, though I use a different mix (mostly Macs with some
Windows and occasional use of Linux).

> Welcome to COLA!



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Snit
7/25/2014 6:32:07 PM
On Friday, July 25, 2014 1:59:20 PM UTC-4, RonB wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 00:16:16 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:17:51 -0700, jlungo33 wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> >> Let's be honest, compared to the offerings of OSX and Windows, Linux
> 
> >> sucks badly.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Compared to Linux, Windows sucks dead donkey balls, but that - like your
> 
> > pronouncement - is a matter of opinion.  Somewhat better-backed opinion,
> 
> > given the nearly countless bits of Windows-specific malware out there,
> 
> > but still opinion.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Care to try again?
> 
> 
> 
> Can you imagine the crap Microsoft would be foisting on the world if Linux 
> hadn't taken over the embedded market, the smartphone market, the tablet 
> market, the supercomputer market, and a large chunk of the server market? 



How about the Desktop market?
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John
7/25/2014 7:07:51 PM
On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its single
>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its Update
>       system is amazingly slow.
>

I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
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Soupe
7/25/2014 7:08:24 PM
On 2014-07-25, Soupe du Jour <soupedujour2000@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its single
>>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its Update
>>       system is amazingly slow.
>>
>
> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
> they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
> it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.

     Linux (and Unix in general) is transparent and modular. You don't have
to be stuck with any single component of the system. If you think something
is a bother or a burden, you can get rid of it and replace it. So your
environment can be as snazzy or as speedy as you want.

     You're not a captive to the curator choices of MS or Apple.

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JEDIDIAH
7/25/2014 7:48:43 PM
> On 2014-07-25, Soupe du Jour <soupedujour2000@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its single
>>>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its Update
>>>       system is amazingly slow.
>>>
>>
>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
>> they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
>> it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
>
>      Linux (and Unix in general) is transparent and modular. You don't have
> to be stuck with any single component of the system. If you think something
> is a bother or a burden, you can get rid of it and replace it. So your
> environment can be as snazzy or as speedy as you want.
>
That's a very good plus for Linux for those that delve into the OS to that level.  The average user doesn't do that and wouldn't find that to be a plus for them.

>      You're not a captive to the curator choices of MS or Apple.
>

It isn't captive, it is consistency which makes it easier to get help if needed.  I switch between Windows and OSX quite often and it just isn't brain surgery to do.  And that ecosystem built around OSX and to a somewhat lesser extent, Windows is a big plus for them.

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Lloyd
7/25/2014 8:07:22 PM
On 7/25/14, 12:48 PM, in article slrnlt5d4r.5oi.jedi@nomad.mishnet,
"JEDIDIAH" <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:

> On 2014-07-25, Soupe du Jour <soupedujour2000@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its single
>>>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its Update
>>>       system is amazingly slow.
>>> 
>> 
>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
>> they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
>> it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
> 
>      Linux (and Unix in general) is transparent and modular. You don't have
> to be stuck with any single component of the system. If you think something
> is a bother or a burden, you can get rid of it and replace it. So your
> environment can be as snazzy or as speedy as you want.
> 
>      You're not a captive to the curator choices of MS or Apple.

With Linux you are captive to a massive lack of choice.


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Snit
7/25/2014 8:12:57 PM
On 2014-07-25, Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-07-25, Soupe du Jour <soupedujour2000@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its single
>>>>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its Update
>>>>       system is amazingly slow.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
>>> they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
>>> it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
>>
>>      Linux (and Unix in general) is transparent and modular. You don't have
>> to be stuck with any single component of the system. If you think something
>> is a bother or a burden, you can get rid of it and replace it. So your
>> environment can be as snazzy or as speedy as you want.
>>
> That's a very good plus for Linux for those that delve into the OS to that level.  
> The average user doesn't do that and wouldn't find that to be a plus for them.

    Clearly you've never encountered a Windows users subjected to Win8 or ribbon.

>
>>      You're not a captive to the curator choices of MS or Apple.
>>
>
> It isn't captive, 
  
     Sure it is.

> it is consistency 

     Actually, lack of consistency is one of the problems that MS and Apple cause.

[deletia]

     That's the great irony here. Something like MATE is much more compliant 
with the HID mantra of consistency than any Microsoft or Apple environment that
can run off the rails any time it likes giving you no recourse.

     Sure there are Linux vendors that attempt the same tablet-ification nonsense.
However, Linux allows for you to more easily escape from that nonsense. The design
of the system doesn't fight attempts by the end users to impose genuine consistency
on tehir own.

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JEDIDIAH
7/25/2014 8:18:06 PM
Lloyd Parsons wrote:

> JED wrote:
>>
>> Linux (and Unix in general) is transparent and modular. You don't have
>> to be stuck with any single component of the system. If you think something
>> is a bother or a burden, you can get rid of it and replace it. So your
>> environment can be as snazzy or as speedy as you want.
>>
>That's a very good plus for Linux for those that delve into the OS to that level.  
>The average user doesn't do that and wouldn't find that to be a plus for them.

Actually it is a plus for average users, "Lloyd".  

Distro maintainers, who tend to be knowledgable, take advantage of the
flexibility to produce a healthy variety which "average" end users can
then choose from.

>> You're not a captive to the curator choices of MS or Apple.
>>
>
>It isn't captive, it is consistency which makes it easier to get help if needed.  

There is safety in the herd, no doubt.

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chrisv
7/25/2014 8:24:21 PM
> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
>> JED wrote:
>>>
>>> Linux (and Unix in general) is transparent and modular. You don't have
>>> to be stuck with any single component of the system. If you think something
>>> is a bother or a burden, you can get rid of it and replace it. So your
>>> environment can be as snazzy or as speedy as you want.
>>>
>>That's a very good plus for Linux for those that delve into the OS to that level.
>>The average user doesn't do that and wouldn't find that to be a plus for them.
>
> Actually it is a plus for average users, "Lloyd".
>
Only for average Linux users, others find it very confusing.

> Distro maintainers, who tend to be knowledgable, take advantage of the
> flexibility to produce a healthy variety which "average" end users can
> then choose from.
>
Or as it turns out to be turned off from in most cases.  That long list of distros is just confusion for average users.

>>> You're not a captive to the curator choices of MS or Apple.
>>>
>>
>>It isn't captive, it is consistency which makes it easier to get help if needed.
>
> There is safety in the herd, no doubt.
>
Not just the safety.  A wide ecosystem that lets what you do on your laptop/desktop be on your phone and tablet with no real user effort at all.  I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.

> --
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>


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Lloyd
7/25/2014 8:36:04 PM
On 2014-07-25, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
>> JED wrote:
>>>
>>> Linux (and Unix in general) is transparent and modular. You don't have
>>> to be stuck with any single component of the system. If you think something
>>> is a bother or a burden, you can get rid of it and replace it. So your
>>> environment can be as snazzy or as speedy as you want.
>>>
>>That's a very good plus for Linux for those that delve into the OS to that level.  
>>The average user doesn't do that and wouldn't find that to be a plus for them.
>
> Actually it is a plus for average users, "Lloyd".  
>
> Distro maintainers, who tend to be knowledgable, take advantage of the
> flexibility to produce a healthy variety which "average" end users can
> then choose from.

    Quite right.

    If I want to try something new, all I have to do is to employ my "app store"
and then make my selection with the nice easy menus that have been available on 
X login managers since the days that MacOS still ran on their original CPU arch.

[deletia]

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JEDIDIAH
7/25/2014 8:42:24 PM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:36:04 -0500
Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:

  I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the
> Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
> 
Any phone and any tablet?


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Melzzzzz
7/25/2014 8:42:31 PM
On 7/25/14, 1:24 PM, in article bue5t9hfce8a92qq289jn604p1tn66iicj@4ax.com,
"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>>> You're not a captive to the curator choices of MS or Apple.
>>> 
>> 
>> It isn't captive, it is consistency which makes it easier to get help if
>> needed.  
> 
> There is safety in the herd, no doubt.

If you consider the people who value productivity, efficiency, and
error-reduction to be a "herd" - and one you want to avoid - it says a lot
about you.


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Snit
7/25/2014 9:11:31 PM
Lloyd Parsons wrote:

> I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the Mac and
> it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
> 

Which is different from Android tablets, android phones and linux how 
exactly?
Because that is *exactly* what happens here. Android devices will sync 
automatically. And linux has "Akonadi", which happens to have plugins for 
Google contacts and google calendar. Which just incidentally will do that 
stuff on linux

Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically more 
advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious little where 
apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition

And now bugger off, you imbecile Snit


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Peter
7/25/2014 9:15:01 PM
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:36:04 -0500
> Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>
>   I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the
>> Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>
> Any phone and any tablet?
>
>
> --
> Click OK to continue...
>
>
No, and you knew that already.  It is the Apple ecosystem after all.

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Lloyd
7/25/2014 9:19:05 PM
> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
>> I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the Mac and
>> it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>
>
> Which is different from Android tablets, android phones and linux how
> exactly?

Your next paragraph explains the difference quite well.

> Because that is *exactly* what happens here. Android devices will sync
> automatically. And linux has "Akonadi", which happens to have plugins for
> Google contacts and google calendar. Which just incidentally will do that
> stuff on linux
>
And 'Akonadi' is such a descriptive name so just anyone would be able to find and use it?  Hell, even if it is in the distro the average user wouldn't have a clue.

With Apple it is just there simply and easily across the computers, phones and tablets.  That is definitely not true without additional action on the users part with Linux/Android combo.

> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically more
> advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious little where
> apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition
>
When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of Linux/Android.

> And now bugger off, you imbecile Snit
>
>
>
And fuck you too Petey!

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Lloyd
7/25/2014 9:23:29 PM
On 2014-07-25, Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>
>>> JED wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Linux (and Unix in general) is transparent and modular. You don't have
>>>> to be stuck with any single component of the system. If you think something
>>>> is a bother or a burden, you can get rid of it and replace it. So your
>>>> environment can be as snazzy or as speedy as you want.
>>>>
>>>That's a very good plus for Linux for those that delve into the OS to that level.
>>>The average user doesn't do that and wouldn't find that to be a plus for them.
>>
>> Actually it is a plus for average users, "Lloyd".
>>
> Only for average Linux users, others find it very confusing.

    90% of the Windows users out there would probably LOVE IT if there was a 
menu option on the Win8 login screen that read something like "Give me back 
my damn user interface".

    I certainly see that sort of thing being useful on Win Server 2012.

>
>> Distro maintainers, who tend to be knowledgable, take advantage of the
>> flexibility to produce a healthy variety which "average" end users can
>> then choose from.
>>
> Or as it turns out to be turned off from in most cases.  That long list of distros is just confusion for average users.

    Most users aren't even going to see that list.

    It's only trolls that are even aware that there's an "excessive" number
of choices. They go out of their way to make things unecessarily difficult 
and to find things to whine about.

>
>>>> You're not a captive to the curator choices of MS or Apple.
>>>>
>>>
>>>It isn't captive, it is consistency which makes it easier to get help if needed.
>>
>> There is safety in the herd, no doubt.
>>
> Not just the safety.  A wide ecosystem that lets what you do on your laptop/desktop be 
> on your phone and tablet with no real user effort at all.  I love that I can put a >
> contact into my address book on the Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.

    These days, that's the domain of the "cloud" where support for
individual binary platforms is much less of an issue. What you are
talking about is an outdated view of platform support that belongs
back in the 80s.

    The iTunes model is really outdated.

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JEDIDIAH
7/25/2014 9:28:25 PM
On 7/25/14, 2:23 PM, in article c3g06mFdomcU1@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
Parsons" <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:

>> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically more
>> advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious little where
>> apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition
>> 
> When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of
> Linux/Android.

I do not use Android enough to say, but it is *clearly* true on the desktop
compared to Windows and even more so to Linux, and Peter never acknolwedges
that. 


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Snit
7/25/2014 9:35:47 PM
Lloyd Parsons wrote:

>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>
>>> I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the Mac and
>>> it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>
>>
>> Which is different from Android tablets, android phones and linux how
>> exactly?
> 
> Your next paragraph explains the difference quite well.
> 
>> Because that is *exactly* what happens here. Android devices will sync
>> automatically. And linux has "Akonadi", which happens to have plugins for
>> Google contacts and google calendar. Which just incidentally will do that
>> stuff on linux
>>
> And 'Akonadi' is such a descriptive name so just anyone would be able to
> find and use it?  Hell, even if it is in the distro the average user
> wouldn't have a clue.

Just because you (which isn't any surprise) don't have any clue about linux 
does not mean that linux users don't.
Those actually know what is provided

After all, "Safari" isn't a self-explaining name for a browser, don't you 
agree?
There are *lots* of apple programs which do not have any descriptive names.
And then comes a imbecile Snit like you along and starts harping on names in 
linux

> With Apple it is just there simply and easily across the computers, phones
> and tablets.  That is definitely not true without additional action on the
> users part with Linux/Android combo.

And you know that how, exactly? You have about as much clue about linux as a 
cow has about quantum physics
 
>> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically more
>> advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious little
>> where apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition
>>
> When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of
> Linux/Android.

Sure. Because a Snit like you claims something, it must be true

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Peter
7/25/2014 9:37:55 PM
Soupe du Jour wrote:

> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>       single
>>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its
>>       Update system is amazingly slow.
>>
> 
> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
> they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
> it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.

So?  Today I updated Scientific Linux and it took a while and it also 
requested a reboot.  Not all updates require it tho due to not having a 
registry.

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GreyCloud
7/25/2014 9:38:21 PM
This is the flibby-dabby-dee service of the BBC, & here is a photograph
of RonB saying:

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 05:49:43 -0700, john.h.gohde wrote:
>
>> I would tend to agree.  Linux appears to this Windoze user, to be a
>> world of loony kooks.
>
> Says the new nym, who is full of shit.
>
> (Subject Line corrected to reflect reality.)
>
> BTW, "gohde," goodbye.

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Says it all. Just kill googlegroups, & cut off the moron's oxygen.

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William
7/25/2014 9:41:17 PM
On 7/25/14, 2:37 PM, in article lquinj$24a$1@dont-email.me, "Peter K�hlmann"
<peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> 
>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the Mac and
>>>> it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Which is different from Android tablets, android phones and linux how
>>> exactly?
>> 
>> Your next paragraph explains the difference quite well.
>> 
>>> Because that is *exactly* what happens here. Android devices will sync
>>> automatically. And linux has "Akonadi", which happens to have plugins for
>>> Google contacts and google calendar. Which just incidentally will do that
>>> stuff on linux
>>> 
>> And 'Akonadi' is such a descriptive name so just anyone would be able to
>> find and use it?  Hell, even if it is in the distro the average user
>> wouldn't have a clue.
> 
> Just because you (which isn't any surprise) don't have any clue about linux
> does not mean that linux users don't.
> Those actually know what is provided
> 
> After all, "Safari" isn't a self-explaining name for a browser, don't you
> agree?
> There are *lots* of apple programs which do not have any descriptive names.
> And then comes a imbecile Snit like you along and starts harping on names in
> linux

I admit I know little of Android - but given your denial of any ways OS X is
easier / better than desktop Linux you are clearly biased.

>> With Apple it is just there simply and easily across the computers, phones
>> and tablets.  That is definitely not true without additional action on the
>> users part with Linux/Android combo.
> 
> And you know that how, exactly? You have about as much clue about linux as a
> cow has about quantum physics

Empty attacks and insults do not support your claims.

>>> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically more
>>> advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious little
>>> where apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition
>>> 
>> When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of
>> Linux/Android.
> 
> Sure. Because a Snit like you claims something, it must be true

Do you want examples? I have given many... heck, I have some in my .sig. You
deny them all.




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Snit
7/25/2014 9:43:15 PM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:08:24 -0500, Soupe du Jour wrote:

> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>       single kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And
>>       its Update system is amazingly slow.
>>
>>
> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often they
> require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and it
> still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.

It literally takes about five hours to install and update Windows -- and 
that doesn't include installing and updating all the programs necessary to 
use the Malware Magnet OS. Linux Mint takes about 40 minutes, that 
includes the applications, add-ons and codecs. And you're done. Vastly 
superior to Windows crap.

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RonB
7/25/2014 9:47:28 PM
This is the flibby-dabby-dee service of the BBC, & here is a photograph
of Peter K�hlmann saying:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>>> I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the Mac and
>>>> it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Which is different from Android tablets, android phones and linux how
>>> exactly?
>> 
>> Your next paragraph explains the difference quite well.
>> 
>>> Because that is *exactly* what happens here. Android devices will sync
>>> automatically. And linux has "Akonadi", which happens to have plugins for
>>> Google contacts and google calendar. Which just incidentally will do that
>>> stuff on linux
>>>
>> And 'Akonadi' is such a descriptive name so just anyone would be able to
>> find and use it?  Hell, even if it is in the distro the average user
>> wouldn't have a clue.
>
> Just because you (which isn't any surprise) don't have any clue about linux 
> does not mean that linux users don't.
> Those actually know what is provided
>
> After all, "Safari" isn't a self-explaining name for a browser, don't you 
> agree?
> There are *lots* of apple programs which do not have any descriptive names.
> And then comes a imbecile Snit like you along and starts harping on names in 
> linux
>
>> With Apple it is just there simply and easily across the computers, phones
>> and tablets.  That is definitely not true without additional action on the
>> users part with Linux/Android combo.

Bullshit.

> And you know that how, exactly? You have about as much clue about linux as a 
> cow has about quantum physics

+1

>>> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically more
>>> advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious little
>>> where apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition
>>>
>> When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of
>> Linux/Android.

More bullshit from an iCultist.

> Sure. Because a Snit like you claims something, it must be true

Yeah, riiiiiiiiiiight.

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William
7/25/2014 9:48:13 PM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:42:31 +0200, Melzzzzz wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:36:04 -0500 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
> wrote:
> 
>   I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the
>> Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>> 
> Any phone and any tablet?

Gosh, what a novel idea. Android and Google weren't doing that years ago 
-- oh, wait a minute, yes they were.

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RonB
7/25/2014 9:49:57 PM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:15:01 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically
> more advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious
> little where apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition

Of course that's what the iCultists think. Anything Apple steals from the 
competition and tries to patent, they actually believe Apple came up with 
the idea. Poor little gullible bovines.

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RonB
7/25/2014 9:52:29 PM
On 7/25/14, 2:48 PM, in article
ttvaab-2pg.ln1@user-1943a.linux.individual.net, "William Poaster"
<wp@dev.null> wrote:

>>>> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically more
>>>> advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious little
>>>> where apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition
>>>> 
>>> When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of
>>> Linux/Android.
> 
> More bullshit from an iCultist.

So let us do direct comparisons, as I do with images in word processors in
my videos, below.

But this is where your herd runs.


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Snit
7/25/2014 9:53:45 PM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:37:55 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

>> And 'Akonadi' is such a descriptive name so just anyone would be able
>> to find and use it?  Hell, even if it is in the distro the average user
>> wouldn't have a clue.
> 
> Just because you (which isn't any surprise) don't have any clue about
> linux does not mean that linux users don't.
> Those actually know what is provided

Which begs the question, why are the iCultists here stinking up the place? 
Is their own advocacy newsgroup so putrid that they can't even stand their 
own stench?

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RonB
7/25/2014 9:53:55 PM
Lloyd Parsons wrote:

>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:36:04 -0500
>> Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>   I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the
>>> Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>
>> Any phone and any tablet?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Click OK to continue...
>>
>>
> No, and you knew that already.  It is the Apple ecosystem after all.

Which is different from the android ecosystem.
You can buy any android phone, and any android tablet. They will still sync.
And then you can use any linux distro. It will sync with those too

In short: With apple you are lkimited to apple, and just apple alone.
With android and linux, you are free to use whatever you want, and you still 
get the same ease of use. More, actually.

But then you are just a imbecile Snit. Dumb, dishonest and all in all a 
disgrace to humankind

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Peter
7/25/2014 10:06:07 PM
> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:36:04 -0500
>>> Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the
>>>> Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>>
>>> Any phone and any tablet?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Click OK to continue...
>>>
>>>
>> No, and you knew that already.  It is the Apple ecosystem after all.
>
> Which is different from the android ecosystem.
> You can buy any android phone, and any android tablet. They will still sync.
> And then you can use any linux distro. It will sync with those too
>

That isn't in any way different.  Well other than having to figure out what oddly named Linux app to use for it.

> In short: With apple you are lkimited to apple, and just apple alone.
> With android and linux, you are free to use whatever you want, and you still
> get the same ease of use. More, actually.
>
No you aren't.  You must use an Android device, just like you must use an Apple device to get the benefits.

Of course with Apple you don't have to worry about which level of Android your POS phone/tablet is running as all but the very earliest Apple tablets/phones will run the latest version of the software.

> But then you are just a imbecile Snit. Dumb, dishonest and all in all a
> disgrace to humankind
>
>
Thanks for describing yourself to a 'T'.  I nominate you as asshole of the month!

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Lloyd
7/25/2014 10:14:23 PM
On 7/25/14, 3:14 PM, in article c3g362Fecb6U1@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
Parsons" <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:

>> But then you are just a imbecile Snit. Dumb, dishonest and all in all a
>> disgrace to humankind
>> 
>> 
> Thanks for describing yourself to a 'T'.  I nominate you as asshole of the
> month!

Hey, not nice! :)


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Snit
7/25/2014 10:18:15 PM
> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>>> I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the Mac and
>>>> it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Which is different from Android tablets, android phones and linux how
>>> exactly?
>>
>> Your next paragraph explains the difference quite well.
>>
>>> Because that is *exactly* what happens here. Android devices will sync
>>> automatically. And linux has "Akonadi", which happens to have plugins for
>>> Google contacts and google calendar. Which just incidentally will do that
>>> stuff on linux
>>>
>> And 'Akonadi' is such a descriptive name so just anyone would be able to
>> find and use it?  Hell, even if it is in the distro the average user
>> wouldn't have a clue.
>
> Just because you (which isn't any surprise) don't have any clue about linux
> does not mean that linux users don't.
> Those actually know what is provided
>
You mean the 1-2% that use it on the desktop?  Moron.

> After all, "Safari" isn't a self-explaining name for a browser, don't you
> agree?

But I don't have to go look for it, it is right their with a very nice icon.

> There are *lots* of apple programs which do not have any descriptive names.
> And then comes a imbecile Snit like you along and starts harping on names in
> linux
>
Compared to the nitwit names of all too many Linux apps, Apple's are completely named properly.

>> With Apple it is just there simply and easily across the computers, phones
>> and tablets.  That is definitely not true without additional action on the
>> users part with Linux/Android combo.
>
> And you know that how, exactly? You have about as much clue about linux as a
> cow has about quantum physics
>
Given the long history of my reading here, there has never been an example where you showed any real knowledge about anything at all.  Lots of braying and bragging, but nothing of real value.

And of course, your pleasant personality.

>>> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically more
>>> advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious little
>>> where apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition
>>>
>> When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of
>> Linux/Android.
>
> Sure. Because a Snit like you claims something, it must be true
>
>
No because the users of Apple gear say so, and say it a lot.

In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.  Probably explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.

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Lloyd
7/25/2014 10:19:02 PM
> This is the flibby-dabby-dee service of the BBC, & here is a photograph
> of Peter K�hlmann saying:
>
>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>
>>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the Mac and
>>>>> it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Which is different from Android tablets, android phones and linux how
>>>> exactly?
>>>
>>> Your next paragraph explains the difference quite well.
>>>
>>>> Because that is *exactly* what happens here. Android devices will sync
>>>> automatically. And linux has "Akonadi", which happens to have plugins for
>>>> Google contacts and google calendar. Which just incidentally will do that
>>>> stuff on linux
>>>>
>>> And 'Akonadi' is such a descriptive name so just anyone would be able to
>>> find and use it?  Hell, even if it is in the distro the average user
>>> wouldn't have a clue.
>>
>> Just because you (which isn't any surprise) don't have any clue about linux
>> does not mean that linux users don't.
>> Those actually know what is provided
>>
>> After all, "Safari" isn't a self-explaining name for a browser, don't you
>> agree?
>> There are *lots* of apple programs which do not have any descriptive names.
>> And then comes a imbecile Snit like you along and starts harping on names in
>> linux
>>
>>> With Apple it is just there simply and easily across the computers, phones
>>> and tablets.  That is definitely not true without additional action on the
>>> users part with Linux/Android combo.
>
> Bullshit.
>
>> And you know that how, exactly? You have about as much clue about linux as a
>> cow has about quantum physics
>
> +1
>
>>>> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically more
>>>> advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious little
>>>> where apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition
>>>>
>>> When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of
>>> Linux/Android.
>
> More bullshit from an iCultist.
>
>> Sure. Because a Snit like you claims something, it must be true
>
> Yeah, riiiiiiiiiiight.
>
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> That includes hitting the console
> -- Commander Kate Bowman --
>
>
Hi Willy.  I see your attitude is just about par for the course.  Are you and Petey related?

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Lloyd
7/25/2014 10:20:14 PM
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:37:55 +0200, Peter K�hlmann wrote:
>
>>> And 'Akonadi' is such a descriptive name so just anyone would be able
>>> to find and use it?  Hell, even if it is in the distro the average user
>>> wouldn't have a clue.
>>
>> Just because you (which isn't any surprise) don't have any clue about
>> linux does not mean that linux users don't.
>> Those actually know what is provided
>
> Which begs the question, why are the iCultists here stinking up the place?
> Is their own advocacy newsgroup so putrid that they can't even stand their
> own stench?
>
> --
> Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.
> Give a man a bank and he can rob the world.
>
Nah.  It is just a little boring over there with the Alan and Puffy show these days.

And someone has to bring some actual reality to this little cult here...  :)

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Lloyd
7/25/2014 10:21:28 PM
> On 2014-07-25, Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>>> JED wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux (and Unix in general) is transparent and modular. You don't have
>>>>> to be stuck with any single component of the system. If you think something
>>>>> is a bother or a burden, you can get rid of it and replace it. So your
>>>>> environment can be as snazzy or as speedy as you want.
>>>>>
>>>>That's a very good plus for Linux for those that delve into the OS to that level.
>>>>The average user doesn't do that and wouldn't find that to be a plus for them.
>>>
>>> Actually it is a plus for average users, "Lloyd".
>>>
>> Only for average Linux users, others find it very confusing.
>
>     90% of the Windows users out there would probably LOVE IT if there was a
> menu option on the Win8 login screen that read something like "Give me back
> my damn user interface".
>
>     I certainly see that sort of thing being useful on Win Server 2012.
>
Keep posting Jed.  Great idiocy is hard to find these days!
>>
>>> Distro maintainers, who tend to be knowledgable, take advantage of the
>>> flexibility to produce a healthy variety which "average" end users can
>>> then choose from.
>>>
>> Or as it turns out to be turned off from in most cases.  That long list of distros is just confusion for average users.
>
>     Most users aren't even going to see that list.

Or Linux either for that matter.
>
>     It's only trolls that are even aware that there's an "excessive" number
> of choices. They go out of their way to make things unecessarily difficult
> and to find things to whine about.
>
>>
>>>>> You're not a captive to the curator choices of MS or Apple.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It isn't captive, it is consistency which makes it easier to get help if needed.
>>>
>>> There is safety in the herd, no doubt.
>>>
>> Not just the safety.  A wide ecosystem that lets what you do on your laptop/desktop be
>> on your phone and tablet with no real user effort at all.  I love that I can put a >
>> contact into my address book on the Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>
>     These days, that's the domain of the "cloud" where support for
> individual binary platforms is much less of an issue. What you are
> talking about is an outdated view of platform support that belongs
> back in the 80s.
>
The cloud makes data pretty much universal to at least some extent, but not all is equal quite yet.  Which cloud service you use pretty much determines what you can actually do with it.

>     The iTunes model is really outdated.
>
Not at all.

> --
>                                     My macintosh runs Ubuntu.        |||
>                                                                     / | \
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Lloyd
7/25/2014 10:24:23 PM
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:42:31 +0200, Melzzzzz wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:36:04 -0500 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>   I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the
>>> Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>
>> Any phone and any tablet?
>
> Gosh, what a novel idea. Android and Google weren't doing that years ago
> -- oh, wait a minute, yes they were.
>
> --
> Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.
> Give a man a bank and he can rob the world.
>
Google is a big mess, yeah it is all there but it is just a mishmash of half-way done things.  I'll give them credit though, they definitely work on improving it, lots of time by just doing away with stuff.  Of course, to Google it is all about your data and information.

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Lloyd
7/25/2014 10:26:44 PM
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:08:24 -0500, Soupe du Jour wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>>       single kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And
>>>       its Update system is amazingly slow.
>>>
>>>
>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often they
>> require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and it
>> still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
>
> It literally takes about five hours to install and update Windows -- and
> that doesn't include installing and updating all the programs necessary to
> use the Malware Magnet OS. Linux Mint takes about 40 minutes, that
> includes the applications, add-ons and codecs. And you're done. Vastly
> superior to Windows crap.
>
> --
> Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.
> Give a man a bank and he can rob the world.
>
So true.  Linux does install much quicker.  But then, how damned often do you install an OS?  I figger one and done is enough.
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Lloyd
7/25/2014 10:28:13 PM
On 7/25/14, 3:19 PM, in article c3g3eqFee0hU1@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
Parsons" <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:

>>> And 'Akonadi' is such a descriptive name so just anyone would be able to
>>> find and use it?  Hell, even if it is in the distro the average user
>>> wouldn't have a clue.
>> 
>> Just because you (which isn't any surprise) don't have any clue about linux
>> does not mean that linux users don't.
>> Those actually know what is provided
>> 
> You mean the 1-2% that use it on the desktop?  Moron.
> 
>> After all, "Safari" isn't a self-explaining name for a browser, don't you
>> agree?
> 
> But I don't have to go look for it, it is right their with a very nice icon.

Might be good to have some explanatory text like some OSs do... though this
is good for the start and annoying once you know it. Also tends to be hit or
miss on how good it is.

>> There are *lots* of apple programs which do not have any descriptive names.
>> And then comes a imbecile Snit like you along and starts harping on names in
>> linux
>> 
> Compared to the nitwit names of all too many Linux apps, Apple's are
> completely named properly.

Apple has nothing named like GIMP. I mean, really, who thought that was a
good idea?

>>> With Apple it is just there simply and easily across the computers, phones
>>> and tablets.  That is definitely not true without additional action on the
>>> users part with Linux/Android combo.
>> 
>> And you know that how, exactly? You have about as much clue about linux as a
>> cow has about quantum physics
>> 
> Given the long history of my reading here, there has never been an example
> where you showed any real knowledge about anything at all.  Lots of braying
> and bragging, but nothing of real value.

I have many examples. :)
 
> And of course, your pleasant personality.

LOL!

>>>> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically more
>>>> advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious little
>>>> where apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition
>>>> 
>>> When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of
>>> Linux/Android.
>> 
>> Sure. Because a Snit like you claims something, it must be true
>> 
>> 
> No because the users of Apple gear say so, and say it a lot.

Yes. And because we can show examples. I do in my .sig.

> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep
> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.  Probably
> explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.



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Snit
7/25/2014 10:29:11 PM
On Friday, July 25, 2014 5:41:17 PM UTC-4, William Poaster wrote:
> 
> PLEASE NOTE:
> 
> If you are reading this from a web interface such as Google Groups, 
> 
> please be aware this is NOT a forum, and you are merely using a web 
> 
> portal to a USENET group. 
> 
> Many people block posters who use web portals, & Google Groups
> 
> in particular, due to perceieved SPAM or inaneness.
> 
> Therefore any posts you make, will not be seen by everyone.



Ooooh!  You don't say.

If only the Linux developers were so informative.
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John
7/25/2014 10:53:54 PM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:53:45 -0700, Snit wrote:

> On 7/25/14, 2:48 PM, in article
> ttvaab-2pg.ln1@user-1943a.linux.individual.net, "William Poaster"
> <wp@dev.null> wrote:
> 
>>>>> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically
>>>>> more advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious
>>>>> little where apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition
>>>>> 
>>>> When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of
>>>> Linux/Android.
>> 
>> More bullshit from an iCultist.
> 
> So let us do direct comparisons, as I do with images in word processors
> in my videos, below.
> 
> But this is where your herd runs.

Why don't you go back to living in your Prescott trash can and leave the 
adults to speak?

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Silver
7/25/2014 11:11:46 PM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 21:53:55 +0000, RonB wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:37:55 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> 
>>> And 'Akonadi' is such a descriptive name so just anyone would be able
>>> to find and use it?  Hell, even if it is in the distro the average
>>> user wouldn't have a clue.
>> 
>> Just because you (which isn't any surprise) don't have any clue about
>> linux does not mean that linux users don't.
>> Those actually know what is provided
> 
> Which begs the question, why are the iCultists here stinking up the
> place?
> Is their own advocacy newsgroup so putrid that they can't even stand
> their own stench?


Have you BEEN to comp.sys.mac.advocacy? They're only _slightly_ more 
intelligent than Snatch.

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Silver
7/25/2014 11:13:22 PM
Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:36:04 -0500
>> Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>   I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the
>>> Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>
>> Any phone and any tablet?
>>
> No, and you knew that already.  It is the Apple ecosystem after all.

Nice.  You get to stay in prison no matter which device you are on :-)

-- 
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Chris
7/25/2014 11:19:07 PM
Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:42:31 +0200, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:36:04 -0500 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the
>>>> Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>>
>>> Any phone and any tablet?
>>
>> Gosh, what a novel idea. Android and Google weren't doing that years ago
>> -- oh, wait a minute, yes they were.
>>
> Google is a big mess, yeah it is all there but it is just a mishmash of
> half-way done things.  I'll give them credit though, they definitely work
> on improving it, lots of time by just doing away with stuff.  Of course,
> to Google it is all about your data and information.

That must be why Consumer Reports and other ranking sites generally rate the
iPhone down in the rankings, with many Android devices well above it.

And why Conan said that Apple should call the new iPhone "Last Year's
Samsung Galaxy".

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Chris
7/25/2014 11:21:48 PM
Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Compared to the nitwit names of all too many Linux apps, Apple's are
> completely named properly.

Ye Gods.

> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep
> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.  Probably
> explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.

LOL.  Get real, Lloyd.

Yeah, a bunch of clowns much much worse than you come here and insult
people, bait them, post over-the-top denunciations of Linux, ridicule and
libel its adherents and their families, and worse, and you're wondering why
some of us bite back?

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we cannot bear to look out of, we blind them as quickly as possible.
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Chris
7/25/2014 11:26:31 PM
GreyCloud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Soupe du Jour wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>>       single
>>>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its
>>>       Update system is amazingly slow.
>> 
>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
>> they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
>> it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
>
> So?  Today I updated Scientific Linux and it took a while and it also 
> requested a reboot.  Not all updates require it tho due to not having a 
> registry.

Debian and CentOS never request reboots.  Obviously, if a new kernel comes
in, and you don't have Ksplice enabled, you should ultimately reboot.  But
you can put it off, since that's about the only part of Linux that might
require a reboot.  The rest at worst require restarting the service, which
the installer will do for you.

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Sorry for the confusion.
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Chris
7/25/2014 11:30:00 PM
Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:08:24 -0500, Soupe du Jour wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>>>       single kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And
>>>>       its Update system is amazingly slow.
>>>>
>>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often they
>>> require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and it
>>> still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
>>
>> It literally takes about five hours to install and update Windows -- and
>> that doesn't include installing and updating all the programs necessary to
>> use the Malware Magnet OS. Linux Mint takes about 40 minutes, that
>> includes the applications, add-ons and codecs. And you're done. Vastly
>> superior to Windows crap.
>>
>> --
>> Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.
>> Give a man a bank and he can rob the world.
>>
> So true.  Linux does install much quicker.  But then, how damned often do
> you install an OS?  I figger one and done is enough.  --

So what?  You've still wasted four more hours than you would have with
Linux.  

Of course, being a retiree, wasted hours are not an issue with you.  :-;

-- 
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sentences that you are sending out in the world to do your work for you are
loitering in taverns or asleep beside the highway.
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		   University of Tennessee at Knoxville
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Chris
7/25/2014 11:31:15 PM
William Poaster wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> This is the flibby-dabby-dee service of the BBC, & here is a photograph
> of RonB saying:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 05:49:43 -0700, john.h.gohde wrote:
>>
>>> I would tend to agree.  Linux appears to this Windoze user, to be a
>>> world of loony kooks.
>>
>> Says the new nym, who is full of shit.
>>
>> (Subject Line corrected to reflect reality.)
>>
>> BTW, "gohde," goodbye.
>
> References: <9ebf2d11-f42c-42f9-800e-e19da3de5363@googlegroups.com>
> 	<2c034f6b-352e-42ec-8d03-c17cc9c45a70@googlegroups.com>
>
> Says it all. Just kill googlegroups, & cut off the moron's oxygen.

Oxygen?  The creep probably breathes methane and uses copper sulfate for
salt.

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Chris
7/25/2014 11:31:53 PM
Chris Ahlstrom wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Compared to the nitwit names of all too many Linux apps, Apple's are
>> completely named properly.
>
> Ye Gods.
>
>> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep
>> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.  Probably
>> explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.
>
> LOL.  Get real, Lloyd.
>
> Yeah, a bunch of clowns much much worse than you come here and insult
> people, bait them, post over-the-top denunciations of Linux, ridicule and
> libel its adherents and their families, and worse, and you're wondering why
> some of us bite back?
>
> -- 
> An idea is an eye given by God for the seeing of God.  Some of these eyes
> we cannot bear to look out of, we blind them as quickly as possible.
> 		-- Russell Hoban, "Pilgermann"


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Chris
7/25/2014 11:32:38 PM
Chris Ahlstrom wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:08:24 -0500, Soupe du Jour wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>>>>       single kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And
>>>>>       its Update system is amazingly slow.
>>>>>
>>>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often they
>>>> require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and it
>>>> still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
>>>
>>> It literally takes about five hours to install and update Windows -- and
>>> that doesn't include installing and updating all the programs necessary to
>>> use the Malware Magnet OS. Linux Mint takes about 40 minutes, that
>>> includes the applications, add-ons and codecs. And you're done. Vastly
>>> superior to Windows crap.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.
>>> Give a man a bank and he can rob the world.
>>>
>> So true.  Linux does install much quicker.  But then, how damned often do
>> you install an OS?  I figger one and done is enough.  --
>
> So what?  You've still wasted four more hours than you would have with
> Linux.  
>
> Of course, being a retiree, wasted hours are not an issue with you.  :-;
>
> -- 
> I appreciate the fact that this draft was done in haste, but some of the
> sentences that you are sending out in the world to do your work for you are
> loitering in taverns or asleep beside the highway.
> 		-- Dr. Dwight Van de Vate, Professor of Philosophy,
> 		   University of Tennessee at Knoxville


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Chris
7/25/2014 11:32:54 PM
> Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Compared to the nitwit names of all too many Linux apps, Apple's are
>> completely named properly.
>
> Ye Gods.
>
>> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep
>> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.  Probably
>> explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.
>
> LOL.  Get real, Lloyd.
>
> Yeah, a bunch of clowns much much worse than you come here and insult
> people, bait them, post over-the-top denunciations of Linux, ridicule and
> libel its adherents and their families, and worse, and you're wondering why
> some of us bite back?
>
> --
> An idea is an eye given by God for the seeing of God.  Some of these eyes
> we cannot bear to look out of, we blind them as quickly as possible.
> 		-- Russell Hoban, "Pilgermann"
>
Yeah, I actually do understand it.  But I've actually posted many non-troll things here over the years only to be literally attacked when I questioned something as in when I was getting Linux on the Chromebooks.  The minute I said something negative I was suddenly a 'snit'.

So you might understand why I might decide to put on the troll hat now and then.  :)

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Lloyd
7/25/2014 11:33:16 PM
> Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:36:04 -0500
>>> Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the
>>>> Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>>
>>> Any phone and any tablet?
>>>
>> No, and you knew that already.  It is the Apple ecosystem after all.
>
> Nice.  You get to stay in prison no matter which device you are on :-)
>
> --
> Real Users know your home telephone number.
>

It is a very nice and colorful prison!  :)
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Lloyd
7/25/2014 11:34:02 PM
> Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:42:31 +0200, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:36:04 -0500 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the
>>>>> Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>>>
>>>> Any phone and any tablet?
>>>
>>> Gosh, what a novel idea. Android and Google weren't doing that years ago
>>> -- oh, wait a minute, yes they were.
>>>
>> Google is a big mess, yeah it is all there but it is just a mishmash of
>> half-way done things.  I'll give them credit though, they definitely work
>> on improving it, lots of time by just doing away with stuff.  Of course,
>> to Google it is all about your data and information.
>
> That must be why Consumer Reports and other ranking sites generally rate the
> iPhone down in the rankings, with many Android devices well above it.
>
Rankings of what?  The iPhone is holding its own quite well.  And having used Android phones in the past, I can assure you there will never be another one used by me and I really don't use them for much other than as phones.

> And why Conan said that Apple should call the new iPhone "Last Year's
> Samsung Galaxy".
>
Who actually cares what Conan has to say?

> --
>   Referring to a book: I read part of it all the way through.
> 		-- Samuel Goldwyn
>


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Lloyd
7/25/2014 11:36:21 PM
On 7/25/14, 4:11 PM, in article lquo7h$m98$4@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:53:45 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> On 7/25/14, 2:48 PM, in article
>> ttvaab-2pg.ln1@user-1943a.linux.individual.net, "William Poaster"
>> <wp@dev.null> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically
>>>>>> more advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious
>>>>>> little where apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition
>>>>>> 
>>>>> When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of
>>>>> Linux/Android.
>>> 
>>> More bullshit from an iCultist.
>> 
>> So let us do direct comparisons, as I do with images in word processors
>> in my videos, below.
>> 
>> But this is where your herd runs.
> 
> Why don't you go back to living in your Prescott trash can and leave the
> adults to speak?

See: mindless insults and attacks. It is the best you can do. No actual
useful information from you. No logic or reason or evidence or even signs of
mature thought.


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Snit
7/25/2014 11:37:23 PM
On 7/25/14, 4:33 PM, in article c3g7q0Ff96vU1@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
Parsons" <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:

>> Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> 
>>> Compared to the nitwit names of all too many Linux apps, Apple's are
>>> completely named properly.
>> 
>> Ye Gods.
>> 
>>> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep
>>> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.  Probably
>>> explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.
>> 
>> LOL.  Get real, Lloyd.
>> 
>> Yeah, a bunch of clowns much much worse than you come here and insult
>> people, bait them, post over-the-top denunciations of Linux, ridicule and
>> libel its adherents and their families, and worse, and you're wondering why
>> some of us bite back?
>> 
>> --
>> An idea is an eye given by God for the seeing of God.  Some of these eyes
>> we cannot bear to look out of, we blind them as quickly as possible.
>> -- Russell Hoban, "Pilgermann"
>> 
> Yeah, I actually do understand it.  But I've actually posted many non-troll
> things here over the years only to be literally attacked when I questioned
> something as in when I was getting Linux on the Chromebooks.  The minute I
> said something negative I was suddenly a 'snit'.

That merely means you have said something they know they cannot refute.

> So you might understand why I might decide to put on the troll hat now and
> then.  :)
> 
> --
> --
> 
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> from SurfacePro via NewsgroupsRT
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Snit
7/25/2014 11:41:44 PM
> Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:08:24 -0500, Soupe du Jour wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>>>>       single kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And
>>>>>       its Update system is amazingly slow.
>>>>>
>>>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often they
>>>> require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and it
>>>> still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
>>>
>>> It literally takes about five hours to install and update Windows -- and
>>> that doesn't include installing and updating all the programs necessary to
>>> use the Malware Magnet OS. Linux Mint takes about 40 minutes, that
>>> includes the applications, add-ons and codecs. And you're done. Vastly
>>> superior to Windows crap.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.
>>> Give a man a bank and he can rob the world.
>>>
>> So true.  Linux does install much quicker.  But then, how damned often do
>> you install an OS?  I figger one and done is enough.  --
>
> So what?  You've still wasted four more hours than you would have with
> Linux.
>
LOL!  Actually I can't remember the last time I installed Windows.  Well, that was a fib!  :)

The Surface Pro comes with Win8 and I had to do a virginizing and restore which will always bring back an older version of Win8 that then needs 79 fucking updates just to get it to the point you can update to Win 8.1.  Let me tell you that wastes an entire day!

And the irritating part is that in many of the MS Knowledge Base articles for various problems that show up, suggest wiping and reinstalling and think that is some kind of normal.  Freaking ridiculous!

I can't remember the time an OSX machine needed a complete reload, nor can I remember it with Linux.  Well, short of a HD dieing.

> Of course, being a retiree, wasted hours are not an issue with you.  :-;
>
Absolutely!!  Everyday is a Saturday!!  :)


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Lloyd
7/25/2014 11:42:02 PM
GreyCloud wrote:

> Soupe du Jour wrote:
> 
>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>>       single
>>>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its
>>>       Update system is amazingly slow.
>>>
>> 
>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
>> they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
>> it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
> 
> So?  Today I updated Scientific Linux and it took a while and it also
> requested a reboot.  Not all updates require it tho due to not having a
> registry.

It has nothing to do with a "registry"
On windows it is the problem of being unable to do anything at all to a DLL 
which is in use. So it has to be done while not in use. Unfortunately a 
*lot* of DLLs are in use even for a "simple" windows system without many 3rd 
party installs

OSX is a slightly different matter, but related. It is unable to handle 
updating system libraries (DLLs) which already run. Apple was too 
incompetent to use something like a package manager like most linux dostros 
use. So they have no idea at all which libraries are in use by what 
applications. 
So it also has to reboot quite a lot (about once every 4 times a update is 
provided). Which is *way* too often

Linux only has to reboot when the kernel changes, and only then if not 
KSplice of similar is installed. Otherwise there is no need at all to 
reboot. Even libraries in use pose no difficulty, since linux can replace 
even libraries/ programs which are just running.
Even if distros catering to the terminally stupid (who changed to it from 
the windows camp mainly) tell them do reboot, so they might feel at home 
some more
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Peter
7/25/2014 11:43:47 PM
Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

>> I said:
>>
>> That must be why Consumer Reports and other ranking sites generally rate the
>> iPhone down in the rankings, with many Android devices well above it.
>>
> Rankings of what?  The iPhone is holding its own quite well.  And having
> used Android phones in the past, I can assure you there will never be
> another one used by me and I really don't use them for much other than as
> phones.

Meh.  My next phone will be an S5.

No Apple silo for me.

>> And why Conan said that Apple should call the new iPhone "Last Year's
>> Samsung Galaxy".
>>
> Who actually cares what Conan has to say?

's a joke, son.  Jess a joke!

Jess like dey joke about Windows and blue screens.  :-D

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Chris
7/25/2014 11:46:15 PM
Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

>> I said:
>>
>> So what?  You've still wasted four more hours than you would have with
>> Linux.
>>
> LOL!  Actually I can't remember the last time I installed Windows.  Well,
> that was a fib!  :)

I install Windows and its fershlugginer dev tools relatively often.

Luckily, it is in a virtual machine, so that I can work on my Linux desktop
whilst the Windows installers labor.

> The Surface Pro comes with Win8 and I had to do a virginizing and restore
> which will always bring back an older version of Win8 that then needs 79
> fucking updates just to get it to the point you can update to Win 8.1.
> Let me tell you that wastes an entire day!
>
> And the irritating part is that in many of the MS Knowledge Base articles
> for various problems that show up, suggest wiping and reinstalling and
> think that is some kind of normal.  Freaking ridiculous!
>
> I can't remember the time an OSX machine needed a complete reload, nor can
> I remember it with Linux.  Well, short of a HD dieing.
>
>> Of course, being a retiree, wasted hours are not an issue with you.  :-;
>
> Absolutely!!  Everyday is a Saturday!!  :)

You bastard!  You lucky bastard!  :-)

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Chris
7/25/2014 11:48:34 PM
> GreyCloud wrote:
>
>> Soupe du Jour wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>>>       single
>>>>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its
>>>>       Update system is amazingly slow.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
>>> they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
>>> it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
>>
>> So?  Today I updated Scientific Linux and it took a while and it also
>> requested a reboot.  Not all updates require it tho due to not having a
>> registry.
>
> It has nothing to do with a "registry"
> On windows it is the problem of being unable to do anything at all to a DLL
> which is in use. So it has to be done while not in use. Unfortunately a
> *lot* of DLLs are in use even for a "simple" windows system without many 3rd
> party installs
>
> OSX is a slightly different matter, but related. It is unable to handle
> updating system libraries (DLLs) which already run. Apple was too
> incompetent to use something like a package manager like most linux dostros
> use. So they have no idea at all which libraries are in use by what
> applications.
> So it also has to reboot quite a lot (about once every 4 times a update is
> provided). Which is *way* too often
>
Utter bullshit Petey!  Damned few updates require a reboot on OSX.

> Linux only has to reboot when the kernel changes, and only then if not
> KSplice of similar is installed. Otherwise there is no need at all to
> reboot. Even libraries in use pose no difficulty, since linux can replace
> even libraries/ programs which are just running.
> Even if distros catering to the terminally stupid (who changed to it from
> the windows camp mainly) tell them do reboot, so they might feel at home
> some more
>


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Lloyd
7/25/2014 11:48:56 PM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:37:23 -0700, Snit wrote:

> On 7/25/14, 4:11 PM, in article lquo7h$m98$4@dont-email.me, "Silver
> Slimer" <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:53:45 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> On 7/25/14, 2:48 PM, in article
>>> ttvaab-2pg.ln1@user-1943a.linux.individual.net, "William Poaster"
>>> <wp@dev.null> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>>> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow
>>>>>>> magically more advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there
>>>>>>> is precious little where apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the
>>>>>>> competition
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of
>>>>>> Linux/Android.
>>>> 
>>>> More bullshit from an iCultist.
>>> 
>>> So let us do direct comparisons, as I do with images in word
>>> processors in my videos, below.
>>> 
>>> But this is where your herd runs.
>> 
>> Why don't you go back to living in your Prescott trash can and leave
>> the adults to speak?
> 
> See: mindless insults and attacks. It is the best you can do. No actual
> useful information from you. No logic or reason or evidence or even
> signs of mature thought.

Nobody here takes you seriously. In fact, most everyone ignores your 
posts because they got tired of your asinine bullshit and incredible 
ignorance long ago. If I removed you from the filters it's because I 
wanted a laugh and was tempted to get one at your expense. I look forward 
to laughing at you on a daily basis until I join the majority of the 
world's population in filtering every word out of your mouth. Faggot.

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Silver
7/25/2014 11:56:59 PM
On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, in article lquqsb$m98$11@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:

>>>> So let us do direct comparisons, as I do with images in word
>>>> processors in my videos, below.
>>>> 
>>>> But this is where your herd runs.
>>> 
>>> Why don't you go back to living in your Prescott trash can and leave
>>> the adults to speak?
>> 
>> See: mindless insults and attacks. It is the best you can do. No actual
>> useful information from you. No logic or reason or evidence or even
>> signs of mature thought.
> 
> Nobody here takes you seriously. In fact, most everyone ignores your
> posts because they got tired of your asinine bullshit and incredible
> ignorance long ago. If I removed you from the filters it's because I
> wanted a laugh and was tempted to get one at your expense. I look forward
> to laughing at you on a daily basis until I join the majority of the
> world's population in filtering every word out of your mouth. Faggot.

See: immature nonsense from you.

You fear actual topics. It is amusing to watch.


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Snit
7/26/2014 12:10:41 AM
On 7/25/14, 4:43 PM, in article lquq3k$c1d$1@dont-email.me, "Peter K�hlmann"
<peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

> GreyCloud wrote:
> 
>> Soupe du Jour wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>>>       single
>>>>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its
>>>>       Update system is amazingly slow.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
>>> they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
>>> it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
>> 
>> So?  Today I updated Scientific Linux and it took a while and it also
>> requested a reboot.  Not all updates require it tho due to not having a
>> registry.
> 
> It has nothing to do with a "registry"
> On windows it is the problem of being unable to do anything at all to a DLL
> which is in use. So it has to be done while not in use. Unfortunately a
> *lot* of DLLs are in use even for a "simple" windows system without many 3rd
> party installs
> 
> OSX is a slightly different matter, but related. It is unable to handle
> updating system libraries (DLLs) which already run. Apple was too
> incompetent to use something like a package manager like most linux dostros
> use. So they have no idea at all which libraries are in use by what
> applications. 
> So it also has to reboot quite a lot (about once every 4 times a update is
> provided). Which is *way* too often

Ubuntu needs to be rebooted more often, and the suggestion for it and Mint -
the distros claiming to be the most popular - is to back up all of your data
and start from scratch every six months.

> Linux only has to reboot when the kernel changes, and only then if not
> KSplice of similar is installed. Otherwise there is no need at all to
> reboot. Even libraries in use pose no difficulty, since linux can replace
> even libraries/ programs which are just running.

Ubuntu reboots more often than that.

> Even if distros catering to the terminally stupid (who changed to it from
> the windows camp mainly) tell them do reboot, so they might feel at home
> some more



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Snit
7/26/2014 12:24:34 AM
On 07/25/2014 08:51 AM, William Poaster wrote:
> This is the flibby-dabby-dee service of the BBC, & here is a photograph
> of Chris Ahlstrom saying:
>
>> sbd wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 07/24/2014 08:17 PM, jlungo33@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Reading between the lines, I am getting a strong sense that you are
>>> suffering from some serious mental health issues.
>>
>> You pegged him.  Who but a nutcase would spend his time nym-shifting
>> and dogging the fans of a great operating system, usually via some form of
>> nastiness?
>
> And who bothers to waste their time responding to such nutcases. Had
> "sdb" not responded, I wouldn't hav eseen the gurglegroper's shite.
>
>>> It seems like the Linux cats have delivered some severe kicks to your
>>> vitalities. My advice is don't mess with them. Instead, play with the
>>> Mac fangurls, they play very very nice.
>>
>> Uh, no they don't.  They get pretty nasty, too.
>
> Then they deserve each other IMO.
>
plonk plonk plonk
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sbd
7/26/2014 12:42:48 AM
On 07/25/2014 09:13 AM, chrisv wrote:
> William Poaster wrote:
>
>> And who bothers to waste their time responding to such nutcases.
>
> Exactly.  Anyone who can't immediately determine what worthless filth
> trolls in here isn't worth saving.
>
>> Had "sdb" not responded, I wouldn't hav eseen the gurglegroper's shite.
>
> I've had "sdb" plonked for quite a while, due to his troll feeding and
> quoting.
>
plonk plonk plonk
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sbd
7/26/2014 12:43:06 AM
On 07/25/2014 12:23 PM, chrisv wrote:
> john.h.gohde@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> (unread)
>
> *plonk*
>
> Happy now?
>
plonk plonk plonk
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sbd
7/26/2014 12:43:52 AM
On 07/25/2014 06:41 PM, William Poaster wrote:
> This is the flibby-dabby-dee service of the BBC, & here is a photograph
> of RonB saying:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 05:49:43 -0700, john.h.gohde wrote:
>>
>>> I would tend to agree.  Linux appears to this Windoze user, to be a
>>> world of loony kooks.
>>
>> Says the new nym, who is full of shit.
>>
>> (Subject Line corrected to reflect reality.)
>>
>> BTW, "gohde," goodbye.
>
> References: <9ebf2d11-f42c-42f9-800e-e19da3de5363@googlegroups.com>
> 	<2c034f6b-352e-42ec-8d03-c17cc9c45a70@googlegroups.com>
>
> Says it all. Just kill googlegroups, & cut off the moron's oxygen.
>
plonk plonk plonk
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sbd
7/26/2014 12:44:21 AM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:10:41 -0700, Snit wrote:

> On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, in article lquqsb$m98$11@dont-email.me, "Silver
> Slimer"
> <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
> 
>>>>> So let us do direct comparisons, as I do with images in word
>>>>> processors in my videos, below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But this is where your herd runs.
>>>> 
>>>> Why don't you go back to living in your Prescott trash can and leave
>>>> the adults to speak?
>>> 
>>> See: mindless insults and attacks. It is the best you can do. No
>>> actual useful information from you. No logic or reason or evidence or
>>> even signs of mature thought.
>> 
>> Nobody here takes you seriously. In fact, most everyone ignores your
>> posts because they got tired of your asinine bullshit and incredible
>> ignorance long ago. If I removed you from the filters it's because I
>> wanted a laugh and was tempted to get one at your expense. I look
>> forward to laughing at you on a daily basis until I join the majority
>> of the world's population in filtering every word out of your mouth.
>> Faggot.
> 
> See: immature nonsense from you.
> 
> You fear actual topics. It is amusing to watch.

I don't fear topics, you just never clearly define what you are talking 
about. The same way that you deconstructed one topic into three different 
statements in a poor attempt to initiate a circus in a previous post, you 
constantly change the topic until you find one you think you can win. 
Once again, you behave just like an effeminate toddler.

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Silver
7/26/2014 12:51:25 AM
Lloyd Parsons wrote:

>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>
>>> Soupe du Jour wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>>>>       single
>>>>>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its
>>>>>       Update system is amazingly slow.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
>>>> they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
>>>> it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
>>>
>>> So?  Today I updated Scientific Linux and it took a while and it also
>>> requested a reboot.  Not all updates require it tho due to not having a
>>> registry.
>>
>> It has nothing to do with a "registry"
>> On windows it is the problem of being unable to do anything at all to a
>> DLL which is in use. So it has to be done while not in use. Unfortunately
>> a *lot* of DLLs are in use even for a "simple" windows system without
>> many 3rd party installs
>>
>> OSX is a slightly different matter, but related. It is unable to handle
>> updating system libraries (DLLs) which already run. Apple was too
>> incompetent to use something like a package manager like most linux
>> dostros use. So they have no idea at all which libraries are in use by
>> what applications.
>> So it also has to reboot quite a lot (about once every 4 times a update
>> is provided). Which is *way* too often
>>
> Utter bullshit Petey!  Damned few updates require a reboot on OSX.
> 
If I recall, that is true.  Not sure about the latest release tho.
I do know that DLL is the same and any dynlib item in either OS X, UNIX, or 
linux.  The expansion of DLL is Dynamic Link Library.

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GreyCloud
7/26/2014 1:01:01 AM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:24:34 -0700, Snit wrote:

>> Linux only has to reboot when the kernel changes, and only then if not
>> KSplice of similar is installed. Otherwise there is no need at all to
>> reboot. Even libraries in use pose no difficulty, since linux can
>> replace even libraries/ programs which are just running.
> 
> Ubuntu reboots more often than that.

Prove it.

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Silver
7/26/2014 1:03:17 AM
On 7/25/14, 5:51 PM, in article lquu2d$m98$17@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:10:41 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, in article lquqsb$m98$11@dont-email.me, "Silver
>> Slimer"
>> <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> So let us do direct comparisons, as I do with images in word
>>>>>> processors in my videos, below.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But this is where your herd runs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why don't you go back to living in your Prescott trash can and leave
>>>>> the adults to speak?
>>>> 
>>>> See: mindless insults and attacks. It is the best you can do. No
>>>> actual useful information from you. No logic or reason or evidence or
>>>> even signs of mature thought.
>>> 
>>> Nobody here takes you seriously. In fact, most everyone ignores your
>>> posts because they got tired of your asinine bullshit and incredible
>>> ignorance long ago. If I removed you from the filters it's because I
>>> wanted a laugh and was tempted to get one at your expense. I look
>>> forward to laughing at you on a daily basis until I join the majority
>>> of the world's population in filtering every word out of your mouth.
>>> Faggot.
>> 
>> See: immature nonsense from you.
>> 
>> You fear actual topics. It is amusing to watch.
> 
> I don't fear topics, you just never clearly define what you are talking
> about. The same way that you deconstructed one topic into three different
> statements in a poor attempt to initiate a circus in a previous post, you
> constantly change the topic until you find one you think you can win.
> Once again, you behave just like an effeminate toddler.

See: you refuse to talk about topics... you just spew insults. Getting
boring, frankly. Oh well... it is the best you can do I suppose.

If you want to keep getting my attention, though, you will have to be more
interesting. Just spewing the non-topic BS you are currently doing is, well,
boring.


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Snit
7/26/2014 1:03:42 AM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:03:42 -0700, Snit wrote:

> On 7/25/14, 5:51 PM, in article lquu2d$m98$17@dont-email.me, "Silver
> Slimer"
> <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:10:41 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, in article lquqsb$m98$11@dont-email.me, "Silver
>>> Slimer"
>>> <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>>> So let us do direct comparisons, as I do with images in word
>>>>>>> processors in my videos, below.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But this is where your herd runs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why don't you go back to living in your Prescott trash can and
>>>>>> leave the adults to speak?
>>>>> 
>>>>> See: mindless insults and attacks. It is the best you can do. No
>>>>> actual useful information from you. No logic or reason or evidence
>>>>> or even signs of mature thought.
>>>> 
>>>> Nobody here takes you seriously. In fact, most everyone ignores your
>>>> posts because they got tired of your asinine bullshit and incredible
>>>> ignorance long ago. If I removed you from the filters it's because I
>>>> wanted a laugh and was tempted to get one at your expense. I look
>>>> forward to laughing at you on a daily basis until I join the majority
>>>> of the world's population in filtering every word out of your mouth.
>>>> Faggot.
>>> 
>>> See: immature nonsense from you.
>>> 
>>> You fear actual topics. It is amusing to watch.
>> 
>> I don't fear topics, you just never clearly define what you are talking
>> about. The same way that you deconstructed one topic into three
>> different statements in a poor attempt to initiate a circus in a
>> previous post, you constantly change the topic until you find one you
>> think you can win. Once again, you behave just like an effeminate
>> toddler.
> 
> See: you refuse to talk about topics... you just spew insults. Getting
> boring, frankly. Oh well... it is the best you can do I suppose.
> 
> If you want to keep getting my attention, though, you will have to be
> more interesting. Just spewing the non-topic BS you are currently doing
> is, well,
> boring.

Ha, and you run. What a shocker! You know that you can't win when a topic 
is clearly defined because your only ability is to dismantle and 
manipulate statements to your benefit. 

Look at Snatch running!

-- 
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Silver
7/26/2014 1:21:16 AM
On 07/25/2014 08:30 AM, Tomas wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:17:47 -0700 (PDT), john.h.gohde@gmail.com
>> Typical, nonsensical, condescending, bug-eye response of the Linux Loony Bins.
> 
> What can you expect?
> The Cult Of Linux(™)

ARE
YOU
A
ROCK?

It's "Cult of Unix", with a flaming pillar on each side.  Get it right.

Also, you've spoiled your new nym, k00k.


-- 
-v
Note Followup.

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vallor
7/26/2014 1:25:05 AM
On 7/25/14, 6:21 PM, in article lquvqc$m98$25@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:03:42 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> On 7/25/14, 5:51 PM, in article lquu2d$m98$17@dont-email.me, "Silver
>> Slimer"
>> <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:10:41 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, in article lquqsb$m98$11@dont-email.me, "Silver
>>>> Slimer"
>>>> <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So let us do direct comparisons, as I do with images in word
>>>>>>>> processors in my videos, below.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But this is where your herd runs.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why don't you go back to living in your Prescott trash can and
>>>>>>> leave the adults to speak?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> See: mindless insults and attacks. It is the best you can do. No
>>>>>> actual useful information from you. No logic or reason or evidence
>>>>>> or even signs of mature thought.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nobody here takes you seriously. In fact, most everyone ignores your
>>>>> posts because they got tired of your asinine bullshit and incredible
>>>>> ignorance long ago. If I removed you from the filters it's because I
>>>>> wanted a laugh and was tempted to get one at your expense. I look
>>>>> forward to laughing at you on a daily basis until I join the majority
>>>>> of the world's population in filtering every word out of your mouth.
>>>>> Faggot.
>>>> 
>>>> See: immature nonsense from you.
>>>> 
>>>> You fear actual topics. It is amusing to watch.
>>> 
>>> I don't fear topics, you just never clearly define what you are talking
>>> about. The same way that you deconstructed one topic into three
>>> different statements in a poor attempt to initiate a circus in a
>>> previous post, you constantly change the topic until you find one you
>>> think you can win. Once again, you behave just like an effeminate
>>> toddler.
>> 
>> See: you refuse to talk about topics... you just spew insults. Getting
>> boring, frankly. Oh well... it is the best you can do I suppose.
>> 
>> If you want to keep getting my attention, though, you will have to be
>> more interesting. Just spewing the non-topic BS you are currently doing
>> is, well,
>> boring.
> 
> Ha, and you run. What a shocker! You know that you can't win when a topic
> is clearly defined because your only ability is to dismantle and
> manipulate statements to your benefit.
> 
> Look at Snatch running!

I am asking you to speak about topics... and you accuse me of running.

From what?


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Snit
7/26/2014 1:37:16 AM
On Friday, July 25, 2014 8:43:52 PM UTC-4, sbd wrote:
> On 07/25/2014 12:23 PM, chrisv wrote:
> 
> > john.h.gohde@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> >> (unread)
> 
> >
> 
> > *plonk*
> 
> >
> 
> > Happy now?
> 
> >
> 
> plonk plonk plonk


good, now I can dump on sbd without "it" being none the wiser.  I bet that sbd was born a female, even though sbd pretends to be a male.

I just have this gut feeling about jerks like sbd 
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John
7/26/2014 1:49:23 AM
Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> GreyCloud wrote:
> 
>> Soupe du Jour wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>>>       single
>>>>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its
>>>>       Update system is amazingly slow.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
>>> they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
>>> it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
>> 
>> So?  Today I updated Scientific Linux and it took a while and it also
>> requested a reboot.  Not all updates require it tho due to not having a
>> registry.
> 
> It has nothing to do with a "registry"
> On windows it is the problem of being unable to do anything at all to a
> DLL which is in use. So it has to be done while not in use.

Of course.  It is the only thing that the computer can do.
Plus there are many entries that have to be entered into the registry so 
that during a reboot the DLL has the new settings, if any.

> Unfortunately
> a *lot* of DLLs are in use even for a "simple" windows system without many
> 3rd party installs
> 

DLLs and dynamic runtime libraries are essentially the same thing.

> OSX is a slightly different matter, but related. It is unable to handle
> updating system libraries (DLLs) which already run. Apple was too
> incompetent to use something like a package manager like most linux
> dostros use. So they have no idea at all which libraries are in use by
> what applications.
> So it also has to reboot quite a lot (about once every 4 times a update is
> provided). Which is *way* too often
> 
> Linux only has to reboot when the kernel changes, and only then if not
> KSplice of similar is installed. Otherwise there is no need at all to
> reboot. Even libraries in use pose no difficulty, since linux can replace
> even libraries/ programs which are just running.
> Even if distros catering to the terminally stupid (who changed to it from
> the windows camp mainly) tell them do reboot, so they might feel at home
> some more

I don't think I buy that one.

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GreyCloud
7/26/2014 2:22:57 AM
Silver Slimer wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:24:34 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>>> Linux only has to reboot when the kernel changes, and only then if not
>>> KSplice of similar is installed. Otherwise there is no need at all to
>>> reboot. Even libraries in use pose no difficulty, since linux can
>>> replace even libraries/ programs which are just running.
>> 
>> Ubuntu reboots more often than that.
> 
> Prove it.
> 
He can't.

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GreyCloud
7/26/2014 2:23:25 AM
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> GreyCloud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
>> Soupe du Jour wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>>>       single
>>>>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its
>>>>       Update system is amazingly slow.
>>> 
>>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
>>> they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
>>> it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
>>
>> So?  Today I updated Scientific Linux and it took a while and it also
>> requested a reboot.  Not all updates require it tho due to not having a
>> registry.
> 
> Debian and CentOS never request reboots.  Obviously, if a new kernel comes
> in, and you don't have Ksplice enabled, you should ultimately reboot.  But
> you can put it off, since that's about the only part of Linux that might
> require a reboot.  The rest at worst require restarting the service, which
> the installer will do for you.
> 
I don't know how they can get around that if a dynlib is changed that has to 
do with the kernel in anyway.  But RedHat does need to reboot if it needs 
it.  I just had to do it today.  The good thing is that is was needed if I 
wanted the security risk that was involved to go away.  I rebooted later on.
With windows... well, you get booted.

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GreyCloud
7/26/2014 2:27:17 AM
Snit wrote:

> On 7/25/14, 4:11 PM, in article lquo7h$m98$4@dont-email.me, "Silver
> Slimer" <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:53:45 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> On 7/25/14, 2:48 PM, in article
>>> ttvaab-2pg.ln1@user-1943a.linux.individual.net, "William Poaster"
>>> <wp@dev.null> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>>> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically
>>>>>>> more advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious
>>>>>>> little where apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of
>>>>>> Linux/Android.
>>>> 
>>>> More bullshit from an iCultist.
>>> 
>>> So let us do direct comparisons, as I do with images in word processors
>>> in my videos, below.
>>> 
>>> But this is where your herd runs.
>> 
>> Why don't you go back to living in your Prescott trash can and leave the
>> adults to speak?
> 
> See: mindless insults and attacks. 

It wasn't mindless, it was advice.

> It is the best you can do. 

He could spank you if you like.

> No actual
> useful information from you. 

Didn't see any from you either.

> No logic or reason or evidence or even signs
> of mature thought.
> 
In  your case, you missed it.  You're using too much glue, gluey.


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GreyCloud
7/26/2014 2:29:23 AM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:21:48 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> And why Conan said that Apple should call the new iPhone "Last Year's
> Samsung Galaxy".

Remember how the iCultists attempted to ridicule Samsung Galaxy's big 
screens? Once Apple comes out with a big screen, they'll be talking about 
how apple "innovated" the idea. And Apple will probably try to patent "big 
screens" and sue everyone else.

-- 
Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.
Give a man a bank and he can rob the world.
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RonB
7/26/2014 4:03:44 AM
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:30:00 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Debian and CentOS never request reboots.  Obviously, if a new kernel
> comes in, and you don't have Ksplice enabled, you should ultimately
> reboot.  But you can put it off, since that's about the only part of
> Linux that might require a reboot.  The rest at worst require restarting
> the service, which the installer will do for you.

I've been running Linux Mint Mate 13 for over two years. I have never been 
asked to reboot when updating. Almost any application update on Windows 
requires a reboot.

-- 
Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.
Give a man a bank and he can rob the world.
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RonB
7/26/2014 4:09:34 AM
On 7/25/14, 7:29 PM, in article
IbadnX91mc8ej07OnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com>
wrote:

> Snit wrote:
> 
>> On 7/25/14, 4:11 PM, in article lquo7h$m98$4@dont-email.me, "Silver
>> Slimer" <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:53:45 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 7/25/14, 2:48 PM, in article
>>>> ttvaab-2pg.ln1@user-1943a.linux.individual.net, "William Poaster"
>>>> <wp@dev.null> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just don't assume that your precious apple gear is somehow magically
>>>>>>>> more advanced than other gear. It isn't. Actually, there is precious
>>>>>>>> little where apple stuff is in *any* way ahead of the competition
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of
>>>>>>> Linux/Android.
>>>>> 
>>>>> More bullshit from an iCultist.
>>>> 
>>>> So let us do direct comparisons, as I do with images in word processors
>>>> in my videos, below.
>>>> 
>>>> But this is where your herd runs.
>>> 
>>> Why don't you go back to living in your Prescott trash can and leave the
>>> adults to speak?
>> 
>> See: mindless insults and attacks.
> 
> It wasn't mindless, it was advice.
> 
>> It is the best you can do.
> 
> He could spank you if you like.
> 
>> No actual
>> useful information from you.
> 
> Didn't see any from you either.
> 
>> No logic or reason or evidence or even signs
>> of mature thought.
>> 
> In  your case, you missed it.  You're using too much glue, gluey.
> 
> 


Meaningless insults from you. It really is the best you can do.


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Snit
7/26/2014 5:37:29 AM
This is the flibby-dabby-dee service of the BBC, & here is a photograph
of Peter K�hlmann saying:

<snip for brevity>

> Linux only has to reboot when the kernel changes, and only then if not 
> KSplice of similar is installed. Otherwise there is no need at all to 
> reboot. 

I recently read (in Linux Journal IIRC) about another app, which is used
in Linux servers, so even *they* don't have to be rebooted on a kernel
change. But ATM I can't recall it's name!

> Even libraries in use pose no difficulty, since linux can replace 
> even libraries/ programs which are just running.

I've had one or two updates where I had to log out of the *desktop* &
back in for the update to take effect, but certainly NOT a full reboot.

> Even if distros catering to the terminally stupid (who changed to it from 
> the windows camp mainly) tell them do reboot, so they might feel at home 
> some more.

-- 
Windows is like a hooker; they're both easy, 
and using either puts you at risk of viruses.

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William
7/26/2014 8:52:03 AM
This is the flibby-dabby-dee service of the BBC, & here is a photograph
of sbd saying:

> On 07/25/2014 09:13 AM, chrisv wrote:
>> William Poaster wrote:
>>
>>> And who bothers to waste their time responding to such nutcases.
>>
>> Exactly.  Anyone who can't immediately determine what worthless filth
>> trolls in here isn't worth saving.
>>
>>> Had "sdb" not responded, I wouldn't hav eseen the gurglegroper's shite.
>>
>> I've had "sdb" plonked for quite a while, due to his troll feeding and
>> quoting.
>>
> plonk plonk plonk

Your wish is granted.

-- 
Now get out there & do it to *them*,
before they do it to *you*.
-- Hill Street Blues --
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William
7/26/2014 8:57:10 AM
This is the flibby-dabby-dee service of the BBC, & here is a photograph
of Chris Ahlstrom saying:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Compared to the nitwit names of all too many Linux apps, Apple's are
>> completely named properly.
>
> Ye Gods.

Laughable, isn't it.

>> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep
>> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.  Probably
>> explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.
>
> LOL.  Get real, Lloyd.

He can't, he's an iCultist. They live in a walled-garden called Apphole.

> Yeah, a bunch of clowns much much worse than you come here and insult
> people, bait them, post over-the-top denunciations of Linux, ridicule and
> libel its adherents and their families, and worse, and you're wondering why
> some of us bite back?

What does the trolling iCultist expect? We're gonna roll over & let him
troll with impunity? 
AFAIC he gets all the flack he deserves.

(Subject altered)

-- 
"Apple is selling zero phones a year. In six months, 
they'll have the most expensive phone by far ever in the marketplace. "
-- Steve Ballmer --

"Hey, Steve, just because you broke into Xerox's house before I did 
and took the TV doesn't mean I can't go in later and take the stereo."
-- Gates to Steve Jobs --

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William
7/26/2014 9:09:17 AM
On 07/25/2014 10:49 PM, John Gohde wrote:
> On Friday, July 25, 2014 8:43:52 PM UTC-4, sbd wrote:
>> On 07/25/2014 12:23 PM, chrisv wrote:
>>
>>> john.h.gohde@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> (unread)
>>
>>>
>>
>>> *plonk*
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Happy now?
>>
>>>
>>
>> plonk plonk plonk
>
>
> good, now I can dump on sbd without "it" being none the wiser.  I bet that sbd was born a female, even though sbd pretends to be a male.
>
> I just have this gut feeling about jerks like sbd
>
It is obvious that cock suckers have delusions!
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sbd
7/26/2014 9:40:13 AM
GreyCloud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> GreyCloud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>> So?  Today I updated Scientific Linux and it took a while and it also
>>> requested a reboot.  Not all updates require it tho due to not having a
>>> registry.
>> 
>> Debian and CentOS never request reboots.  Obviously, if a new kernel comes
>> in, and you don't have Ksplice enabled, you should ultimately reboot.  But
>> you can put it off, since that's about the only part of Linux that might
>> require a reboot.  The rest at worst require restarting the service, which
>> the installer will do for you.
>> 
> I don't know how they can get around that if a dynlib is changed that has to 
> do with the kernel in anyway.

Makes no sense.  Unload the old lib and reload the new one.  But I'm pretty
certain the only dynamic code the kernel uses is modules.

> But RedHat does need to reboot if it needs 
> it.  I just had to do it today.  The good thing is that is was needed if I 
> wanted the security risk that was involved to go away.  I rebooted later on.
> With windows... well, you get booted.

CentOS *is* "RedHat".  I've *never* been asked to reboot after an update.

One nice thing about CentOS is that it will automatically rebuild new
kernel-dependent packages (e.g. VirtualBox) when you do boot to a new
kernel.  (Otherwise, CentOS 6.5 uses some pretty old code, bleh.)

-- 
One of the rules of Busmanship, New York style, is never surrender your
seat to another passenger.  This may seem callous, but it is the best
way, really.  If one passenger were to give a seat to someone who fainted
in the aisle, say, the others on the bus would become disoriented and
imagine they were in Topeka Kansas.
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Chris
7/26/2014 10:28:42 AM
sbd wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 07/25/2014 10:49 PM, John Gohde wrote:
>>
>> good, now I can dump on sbd without "it" being none the wiser.

Apparently "John" doesn't realize that people who plonk don't care what
the plonkee "dumps".  Maybe he doesn't realize that one purpose of trolling
is to inflame the subject person.  Or maybe he's one of those trolls whose
sole purpose is to smear excrement all over the walls of his opponent's pub,
repelling the noobs.

> <redacted>

-- 
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		-- Prof. Steiner
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Chris
7/26/2014 10:32:37 AM
This is the flibby-dabby-dee service of the BBC, & here is a photograph
of Chris Ahlstrom saying:

> sbd wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 07/25/2014 10:49 PM, John Gohde wrote:
>>>
>>> good, now I can dump on sbd without "it" being none the wiser.
>
> Apparently "John" doesn't realize that people who plonk don't care what
> the plonkee "dumps".  Maybe he doesn't realize that one purpose of trolling
> is to inflame the subject person.  Or maybe he's one of those trolls whose
> sole purpose is to smear excrement all over the walls of his opponent's pub,
> repelling the noobs.
>
>> <redacted>

AFAIC I *don't* care what the trolling gurglegroper fuckwit "dumps" on
those who insist on replying to s/h/it. 
Like all trolls, I just ain't interested in seeing his shite.

-- 
There was a little girl, 
Who had a little curl 
Right in the middle of her forehead... 
And when she was good, 
She was very very good, 
But when she was bad.....
 |
|
|
|
V
She got a fur coat, jewels, 
a Waterfront condo & a sports car.

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William
7/26/2014 10:48:26 AM
On 7/26/2014 12:09 AM, RonB wrote:


> Almost any application update on Windows
> requires a reboot.


Liar.

Linux "advocate".

Same thing.

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DFS
7/26/2014 11:27:59 AM
On 7/25/2014 10:03 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> john.h.gohde@gmail.com wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>> Oh, you're *so* noble.  <rolls eyes>
>>>
>>> Buh bye, sock puppet.
>>
>> You read it?  I see an one-time nym like that, and the post gets a
>> quick strike of the delete key.  Unread, of course.
>
> We all react differently to idiots.  I still tend to be a bit
> indulgent of the nasty little urchins.  I must rectify this weakness I have,
> for being avuncular.  :-D


.... for being a pretentious weenie poser who uses big words

.... for being submissive to your wife

.... for being a 57 year old man-child

.... for being a shameless hypocrite who makes a living from
     Windows while denouncing it year after year after year

.... for being a subject-changing weenie



You have a lot of weaknesses to rectify, Creepy.


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DFS
7/26/2014 11:32:16 AM
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 07:27:59 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 7/26/2014 12:09 AM, RonB wrote:
> 
> 
>> Almost any application update on Windows requires a reboot.
> 
> 
> Liar.
> 
> Linux "advocate".
> 
> Same thing.

They're not liars so much as they are effeminate men who are way too 
sensitive. Wideload Porkster actually looks like Rosie O'Donnell so it 
makes a lot more sense.

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OpenMedia & Ubuntu Supporter
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Silver
7/26/2014 6:03:00 PM
On 7/26/14, 11:03 AM, in article lr0qgk$jub$2@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 07:27:59 -0400, DFS wrote:
> 
>> On 7/26/2014 12:09 AM, RonB wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Almost any application update on Windows requires a reboot.
>> 
>> 
>> Liar.
>> 
>> Linux "advocate".
>> 
>> Same thing.
> 
> They're not liars so much as they are effeminate men who are way too
> sensitive. Wideload Porkster actually looks like Rosie O'Donnell so it
> makes a lot more sense.

The fact you are so obsessed with sexual orientation and tendencies says a
lot about you and your insecurities.


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Snit
7/26/2014 6:19:11 PM
On 07/25/2014 05:19 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>
>>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>>
[...]
>>> When it comes to user ease and simplicity, Apple is miles ahead of
>>> Linux/Android.
>>
>> Sure. Because a Snit like you claims something, it must be true
>>
>>
> No because the users of Apple gear say so, and say it a lot.

Let's hope they all have their purple robes and Kool-Aid ready when the 
comet returns...

> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep
> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.
> Probably explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.

Time for you to go home to alt.angst.

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Nobody
7/26/2014 8:10:57 PM
On 07/25/2014 06:19 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:36:04 -0500
>>> Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>    I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the
>>>> Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>>
>>> Any phone and any tablet?
>>>
>> No, and you knew that already.  It is the Apple ecosystem after all.
>
> Nice.  You get to stay in prison no matter which device you are on :-)

Look at the bright side... you get to pay more for Apple devices... 
which give you less... then when you have a problem the shills will 
inform you it doesn't matter because it only affects a few users...even 
though they have no idea the number of people affected...

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Nobody
7/26/2014 8:18:45 PM
On 07/25/2014 11:03 PM, RonB wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:21:48 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> And why Conan said that Apple should call the new iPhone "Last Year's
>> Samsung Galaxy".
>
> Remember how the iCultists attempted to ridicule Samsung Galaxy's big
> screens? Once Apple comes out with a big screen, they'll be talking about
> how apple "innovated" the idea. And Apple will probably try to patent "big
> screens" and sue everyone else.

Has Apple patented bricking devices with a firmware update?  I doubt 
anybody will challenge their right to that one...

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Nobody
7/26/2014 8:21:16 PM
On 7/26/14, 1:18 PM, in article F2UAv.81716$YC3.50289@fx04.iad, "Nobody"
<nobody@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 07/25/2014 06:19 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Lloyd Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> 
>>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:36:04 -0500
>>>> Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>    I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the
>>>>> Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>>> 
>>>> Any phone and any tablet?
>>>> 
>>> No, and you knew that already.  It is the Apple ecosystem after all.
>> 
>> Nice.  You get to stay in prison no matter which device you are on :-)
> 
> Look at the bright side... you get to pay more for Apple devices...
> which give you less... then when you have a problem the shills will
> inform you it doesn't matter because it only affects a few users...even
> though they have no idea the number of people affected...
> 
That is the point: we have no idea how many are affected or if this is a big
problem. Might be. Might not be. But as far as paying more to get less, can
you point to some price comparisons that show that?

I bet not.


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Snit
7/26/2014 8:31:47 PM
Lloyd Parsons wrote:

>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>
>>> Soupe du Jour wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>>>>       single
>>>>>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its
>>>>>       Update system is amazingly slow.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
>>>> they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
>>>> it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
>>>
>>> So?  Today I updated Scientific Linux and it took a while and it also
>>> requested a reboot.  Not all updates require it tho due to not having a
>>> registry.
>>
>> It has nothing to do with a "registry"
>> On windows it is the problem of being unable to do anything at all to a
>> DLL which is in use. So it has to be done while not in use. Unfortunately
>> a *lot* of DLLs are in use even for a "simple" windows system without
>> many 3rd party installs
>>
>> OSX is a slightly different matter, but related. It is unable to handle
>> updating system libraries (DLLs) which already run. Apple was too
>> incompetent to use something like a package manager like most linux
>> dostros use. So they have no idea at all which libraries are in use by
>> what applications.
>> So it also has to reboot quite a lot (about once every 4 times a update
>> is provided). Which is *way* too often
>>
> Utter bullshit Petey!  Damned few updates require a reboot on OSX.

That is *not* my experience. Far too many did. 
I did not count them, but I estimated that 1 out of 4 did. And that was very 
generous towards OSX.

Part of the problem might be that OSX has no idea at all what is really 
installed, and it certainly has absolutely no clue about dependencies.
Even braindead windows knows more about those than OSX does, because it has 
at least that lunatic registry.
But nothing comes close to linux package managers, which know exactly what 
is installed, and also about the dependencies between packages

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Peter
7/26/2014 9:36:52 PM
On 7/26/14, 2:36 PM, in article lr171k$a2q$1@dont-email.me, "Peter K�hlmann"
<peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

>> Utter bullshit Petey!  Damned few updates require a reboot on OSX.
> 
> That is *not* my experience. Far too many did.

Your claims are of no value given your demonstrated ignorance of OS X and
tech in general. Far less of an annoyance than having to backup and start
from scratch every six months - which is what the biggest Linux distros
suggest.

> I did not count them, but I estimated that 1 out of 4 did. And that was very
> generous towards OSX.

Shall we keep track for the next six months?

> Part of the problem might be that OSX has no idea at all what is really
> installed, and it certainly has absolutely no clue about dependencies.
> Even braindead windows knows more about those than OSX does, because it has
> at least that lunatic registry.
> But nothing comes close to linux package managers, which know exactly what
> is installed, and also about the dependencies between packages

Most packages are self contained in OS X... not dependant on anything other
than the OS and what it offers. This is why you get drag and drop installs.


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Snit
7/26/2014 9:49:28 PM
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:10:57 -0500, Nobody wrote:

>> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep
>> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.
>> Probably explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.
> 
> Time for you to go home to alt.angst.

For a product that has such a "small percentage of the market," the 
iCultists and WinDrones sure seem obsessed with it. Wonder why?

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RonB
7/27/2014 4:58:05 AM
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:36:52 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> But nothing comes close to linux package managers, which know exactly
> what is installed, and also about the dependencies between packages

Absolutely. I think one of the biggest problems iCultists and WinDrones 
have with Linux is not understanding the package management systems. They 
think they have to search all over the Internet for an application, like 
they would for their retarded OSes.

Well, actually their biggest problem is they're purposely obtuse -- and 
this is probably just a symptom of that.

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RonB
7/27/2014 5:01:33 AM
On 7/26/14, 9:58 PM, in article lr20ss$cp0$1@dont-email.me, "RonB"
<ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:10:57 -0500, Nobody wrote:
> 
>>> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep
>>> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.
>>> Probably explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.
>> 
>> Time for you to go home to alt.angst.
> 
> For a product that has such a "small percentage of the market," the
> iCultists and WinDrones sure seem obsessed with it. Wonder why?

Your imaginary friends obsess over what you want them to.


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Snit
7/27/2014 5:14:51 AM
On 7/26/14, 10:01 PM, in article lr213d$cp0$2@dont-email.me, "RonB"
<ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:36:52 +0200, Peter K�hlmann wrote:
> 
>> But nothing comes close to linux package managers, which know exactly
>> what is installed, and also about the dependencies between packages
> 
> Absolutely. I think one of the biggest problems iCultists and WinDrones
> have with Linux is not understanding the package management systems.

There are many things, I am sure, your imaginary friends do not understand.

> They think they have to search all over the Internet for an application, like
> they would for their retarded OSes.

Why would your imaginary friends think that? But then again, depending on
the application you might. Maybe you can learn from your imaginary friends.

> Well, actually their biggest problem is they're purposely obtuse -- and this
> is probably just a symptom of that.



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Snit
7/27/2014 5:16:02 AM
This is the flibby-dabby-dee service of the BBC, & here is a photograph
of RonB saying:

> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:10:57 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>
>>> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep
>>> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.
>>> Probably explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.
>> 
>> Time for you to go home to alt.angst.
>
> For a product that has such a "small percentage of the market," the 
> iCultists and WinDrones sure seem obsessed with it. Wonder why?

Well they sure like clinging to the old discredited 2% "market share".
Perhaps it gives the poor things some comfort to chant the mantra. 

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William
7/27/2014 10:22:47 AM
On 7/27/2014 12:58 AM, RonB wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:10:57 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>
>>> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep
>>> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.
>>> Probably explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.
>>
>> Time for you to go home to alt.angst.
>
> For a product that has such a "small percentage of the market," the
> iCultists and WinDrones sure seem obsessed with it. Wonder why?


What do you mean "small percentage of the market"?


Hypocrite Homer says "Linux dominates every other area of computing, all 
bar the last 4 or 5 percent of the entire computing market - a.k.a. the 
"desktop""

turdv says "Linux rules the world, man!"

Christopher Hunter says "the entire German government, French 
government, most of Scandinavia, /all/ of China, and much of India 
switched to Linux"

Rex Ballard says: "3 billion people each have 3-4 consumer electronic 
items running Linux"





Left side of shrieking idiots mouths: "MS is a monopoly"

Right side of shrieking idiots mouths: Linux dominates the IT world
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DFS
7/27/2014 1:18:46 PM
On 2014-07-27 13:18:46 +0000, DFS said:

> On 7/27/2014 12:58 AM, RonB wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:10:57 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>> 
>>>> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep
>>>> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.
>>>> Probably explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.
>>> 
>>> Time for you to go home to alt.angst.
>> 
>> For a product that has such a "small percentage of the market," the
>> iCultists and WinDrones sure seem obsessed with it. Wonder why?
> 
> 
> What do you mean "small percentage of the market"?
> 
> 
> Hypocrite Homer says "Linux dominates every other area of computing, 
> all bar the last 4 or 5 percent of the entire computing market - a.k.a. 
> the "desktop""
> 
> turdv says "Linux rules the world, man!"
> 
> Christopher Hunter says "the entire German government, French 
> government, most of Scandinavia, /all/ of China, and much of India 
> switched to Linux"
> 
> Rex Ballard says: "3 billion people each have 3-4 consumer electronic 
> items running Linux"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Left side of shrieking idiots mouths: "MS is a monopoly"
> 
> Right side of shrieking idiots mouths: Linux dominates the IT world

Yeah there seems to be a little inconsistency in their thinking...  :)

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Lloyd
7/27/2014 1:21:38 PM
On 7/27/2014 9:21 AM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote:
> On 2014-07-27 13:18:46 +0000, DFS said:
>
>> On 7/27/2014 12:58 AM, RonB wrote:
>>> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:10:57 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>>>
>>>>> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just
>>>>> keep
>>>>> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.
>>>>> Probably explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.
>>>>
>>>> Time for you to go home to alt.angst.
>>>
>>> For a product that has such a "small percentage of the market," the
>>> iCultists and WinDrones sure seem obsessed with it. Wonder why?
>>
>>
>> What do you mean "small percentage of the market"?
>>
>>
>> Hypocrite Homer says "Linux dominates every other area of computing,
>> all bar the last 4 or 5 percent of the entire computing market -
>> a.k.a. the "desktop""
>>
>> turdv says "Linux rules the world, man!"
>>
>> Christopher Hunter says "the entire German government, French
>> government, most of Scandinavia, /all/ of China, and much of India
>> switched to Linux"
>>
>> Rex Ballard says: "3 billion people each have 3-4 consumer electronic
>> items running Linux"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Left side of shrieking idiots mouths: "MS is a monopoly"
>>
>> Right side of shrieking idiots mouths: Linux dominates the IT world
>
> Yeah there seems to be a little inconsistency in their thinking...  :)


If only they /could/ think...




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DFS
7/27/2014 4:29:43 PM
On 2014-07-25, Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:36:04 -0500
>>>> Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the
>>>>> Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>>>
>>>> Any phone and any tablet?

[deletia]

>> In short: With apple you are lkimited to apple, and just apple alone.
>> With android and linux, you are free to use whatever you want, and you still
>> get the same ease of use. More, actually.
>>
> No you aren't.  You must use an Android device, just like you must use an Apple device to get the benefits.

     I would expect most things to be "services" in this day and age. It's
not the 80s anymore. Even before the rise of tablets a lot of applications
were becoming web based.

[deletia]

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JEDIDIAH
7/27/2014 6:07:42 PM
On 2014-07-25, Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-07-25, Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> JED wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux (and Unix in general) is transparent and modular. You don't have
>>>>>> to be stuck with any single component of the system. If you think something
>>>>>> is a bother or a burden, you can get rid of it and replace it. So your
>>>>>> environment can be as snazzy or as speedy as you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>That's a very good plus for Linux for those that delve into the OS to that level.
>>>>>The average user doesn't do that and wouldn't find that to be a plus for them.
>>>>
>>>> Actually it is a plus for average users, "Lloyd".
>>>>
>>> Only for average Linux users, others find it very confusing.
>>
>>     90% of the Windows users out there would probably LOVE IT if there was a
>> menu option on the Win8 login screen that read something like "Give me back
>> my damn user interface".
>>
>>     I certainly see that sort of thing being useful on Win Server 2012.
>>
> Keep posting Jed.  Great idiocy is hard to find these days!

   What do you know? You are a retired "salesman".

   You're not even the lowest form of life. You're less than the lowest form of life.

>>>
>>>> Distro maintainers, who tend to be knowledgable, take advantage of the
>>>> flexibility to produce a healthy variety which "average" end users can
>>>> then choose from.
>>>>
>>> Or as it turns out to be turned off from in most cases.  That long list of distros is just confusion for average users.
>>
>>     Most users aren't even going to see that list.
>
> Or Linux either for that matter.

     Like I said. It's just the trolls. Only the trolls care that there
are 500 variations of Linux including things like BSD and Solaris that
aren't even Linux.

>>
>>     It's only trolls that are even aware that there's an "excessive" number
>> of choices. They go out of their way to make things unecessarily difficult
>> and to find things to whine about.

[deleti]

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JEDIDIAH
7/27/2014 6:09:39 PM
On 2014-07-27 18:07:42 +0000, JEDIDIAH said:

> On 2014-07-25, Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:36:04 -0500
>>>>> Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I love that I can put a contact into my address book on the
>>>>>> Mac and it will also automatically be on my phone and tablet.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Any phone and any tablet?
> 
> [deletia]
> 
>>> In short: With apple you are lkimited to apple, and just apple alone.
>>> With android and linux, you are free to use whatever you want, and you still
>>> get the same ease of use. More, actually.
>>> 
>> No you aren't.  You must use an Android device, just like you must use 
>> an Apple device to get the benefits.
> 
>      I would expect most things to be "services" in this day and age. It's
> not the 80s anymore. Even before the rise of tablets a lot of applications
> were becoming web based.
> 
> [deletia]

Yes they were.  And now we're seeing at least some more of the puzzle 
coming together with the 'cloud'.  Apps and data available anywhere you 
have access to the 'net with some nice interaction between similar 
ecosystems.

-- 
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Lloyd
7/27/2014 6:24:13 PM
Lloyd E Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2014-07-27 13:18:46 +0000, DFS said:
>
> <idiocy snipped>
>
> Yeah there seems to be a little inconsistency in their thinking...  :)

No. Just separate markets, evolving over a period of a couple decades.

I'm pretty sure you don't want to become a yes-man for DFS.  He's
called DumbFSck for good reason.

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Chris
7/27/2014 11:18:42 PM
Nobody wrote:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>
>> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep
>> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.
>> Probably explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.
>
>Time for you to go home to alt.angst.

"Linux having only a small share of the desktop reflects poorly on it
and its advocates!"

"The advocates are the bad guys in here!"

"Lloyd" thrashing-around in all directions, trying to distract from
the fact that he made a (double) idiot of himself again.

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chrisv
7/28/2014 1:01:01 AM
Lloyd Parsons wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
>>
>> Actually it is a plus for average users, "Lloyd".
>>
>Only for average Linux users, others find it very confusing.
>
>> Distro maintainers, who tend to be knowledgable, take advantage of the
>> flexibility to produce a healthy variety which "average" end users can
>> then choose from.
>>
>Or as it turns out to be turned off from in most cases.  That long list of distros is just confusion for average users.

Poor "Lloyd".  Shown to be an idiot with his "freedom doesn't help the
average user because he's not technical enough" bullshit, he moves the
goal posts to "freedom doesn't help the average user because it only
confuses him".

As if the "confusion" bullshit hasn't already been debunked a thousand
times.

One wonders how "Lloyd" ever found a vehicle that works for him.  One
wonders if the thought of going grocery shopping fills "Lloyd" with
debilitating anxiety.

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time with it. Now, I've just grown to hate the operating system
completely."  -  "Slimer"
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chrisv
7/28/2014 12:15:16 PM
Lloyd Parsons wrote:

> I've actually posted many non-troll things here 
> over the years only to be literally attacked when 
> I questioned something as in when I was getting 
> Linux on the Chromebooks.  The minute I said 
> something negative I was suddenly a 'snit'.
>
> So you might understand why I might decide to put 
> on the troll hat now and then.  :)

Personally it would not occur to me to spew idiocy and lies, in
response to being insulted.

I guess I have too much self-respect for that, and I want my words to
have some weight.

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installing GNU/Linux on it."  "Slimier"
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chrisv
7/28/2014 12:39:36 PM
On 2014-07-28 12:39:36 +0000, chrisv said:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> 
>> I've actually posted many non-troll things here
>> over the years only to be literally attacked when
>> I questioned something as in when I was getting
>> Linux on the Chromebooks.  The minute I said
>> something negative I was suddenly a 'snit'.
>> 
>> So you might understand why I might decide to put
>> on the troll hat now and then.  :)
> 
> Personally it would not occur to me to spew idiocy and lies, in
> response to being insulted.

Since I don't do either, it must be you...

> 
> I guess I have too much self-respect for that, and I want my words to
> have some weight.

LOL!  'weight', about as much as fly shit!


-- 
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Lloyd
7/28/2014 12:44:50 PM
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> William Poaster wrote:
>> RonB wrote:
>>>
>>> john.h.gohde wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would tend to agree.  Linux appears to this Windoze user, to be a
>>>> world of loony kooks.
>>>
>>> Says the new nym, who is full of shit.
>>>
>>> (Subject Line corrected to reflect reality.)
>>>
>>> BTW, "gohde," goodbye.
>>
>> References: <9ebf2d11-f42c-42f9-800e-e19da3de5363@googlegroups.com>
>> 	<2c034f6b-352e-42ec-8d03-c17cc9c45a70@googlegroups.com>
>>
>> Says it all. Just kill googlegroups, & cut off the moron's oxygen.
>
>Oxygen?  The creep probably breathes methane and uses copper sulfate for
>salt.

He wants to be the middle guy of the "human centipede", with "DFS" in
the front and "Snit" in the rear.

-- 
"I love how chrisv was trying to insinuate that being able to rotate
an image was a useless feature."  -  trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel", lying
shamelessly
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chrisv
7/28/2014 12:45:18 PM
This is the flibby-dabby-dee service of the BBC, & here is a photograph
of chrisv saying:

> Nobody wrote:
>
>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>> In the meantime, you linuxloons, all 2% of the market of you, just keep
>>> showing in this group just what hateful assholes you really are.
>>> Probably explains why you can't even give away Linux on the desktop.
>>
>>Time for you to go home to alt.angst.

alt.kooks, alt.nutcases would be better, IMO.

> "Linux having only a small share of the desktop reflects poorly on it
> and its advocates!"
>
> "The advocates are the bad guys in here!"
>
> "Lloyd" thrashing-around in all directions, trying to distract from
> the fact that he made a (double) idiot of himself again.

HE is an utter fool.

-- 
Coming up next week folks! When the Flying Fickle Finger of Fate Award
is presented to.... 
(or the wonderful winged weenie as our producers call it). 
-- Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In --

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William
7/28/2014 12:46:29 PM
Nobody wrote:

>Look at the bright side... you get to pay more for Apple devices... 

Maybe that is one of the advantages - you have less money left over,
so have fewer options on what you can do or what you can buy, so you
are less "confused".

-- 
"Confusion is running rife."  -  "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark
0
chrisv
7/28/2014 12:47:43 PM
Lloyd E Parsons wrote:

> dumfsck said:
>> 
>> Left side of shrieking idiots mouths: "MS is a monopoly"
>> 
>> Right side of shrieking idiots mouths: Linux dominates the IT world
>
>Yeah there seems to be a little inconsistency in their thinking...  :)

Trying to pretend that the M$-dominated desktop is not the exception
to the rule, are we?

Jeezez, I hope you shower after rubbing up-against DumFSck.  You know
he's a racist, in addition to being a filthy lying shit, right?

"Ezekiel" likes him, though.

-- 
'Linux "experts" say Linux is perfect. (period)'  -  DumFSck, lying
shamelessly
0
chrisv
7/28/2014 1:03:44 PM
Lloyd E Parsons wrote:

>.(snipped, unread)

-- 
"In GNU/Linux, developers consistently get nothing and as a result
produce absolutely terrible code."  -  "Slimer"
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chrisv
7/28/2014 1:10:51 PM
On 7/28/14, 5:45 AM, in article 08hct9945jjn7tedic834492fo09gvsjqg@4ax.com,
"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

.... 
>> Oxygen?  The creep probably breathes methane and uses copper sulfate for
>> salt.
> 
> He wants to be the middle guy of the "human centipede", with "DFS" in
> the front and "Snit" in the rear.

Six minutes before you posted that you posted:
    -----
    Personally it would not occur to me to spew idiocy and lies,
    in response to being insulted.
    -----

You could not keep your word on it for even 10 minutes! Wow. That is just
pathetic.

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Snit
7/28/2014 3:35:53 PM
On Monday, July 28, 2014 3:35:53 PM UTC, Snit wrote:
> On 7/28/14, 5:45 AM, in article 08hct9945jjn7tedic834492fo09gvsjqg@4ax.com,
> 
> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> ... 
> 
> >> Oxygen?  The creep probably breathes methane and uses copper sulfate for
> 
> >> salt.
> 
> > 
> 
> > He wants to be the middle guy of the "human centipede", with "DFS" in
> 
> > the front and "Snit" in the rear.
> 
> 
> 
> Six minutes before you posted that you posted:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     Personally it would not occur to me to spew idiocy and lies,
> 
>     in response to being insulted.
> 
>     -----
> 
> 
> 
> You could not keep your word on it for even 10 minutes! Wow. That is just
> 
> pathetic.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> * Mint MATE: Trash, Panel, Menu:    <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
> 
> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
> 
> * Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
> 
> * Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
> 
> * Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
> 
> * Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
> 
> * Mint / LibreOffice:               <http://youtu.be/USU9iqppfto>
> 
> * Win 8 / Word 2013:                <http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4>
> 
> * Mavericks / Pages 5.1:            <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>

"I have a degree in Psychology from UNLV and a Masters in IT from Kaplan University.  I teach computer classes at multiple schools and have my own technology business." - Snit

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/e0A4xSg5LTA/Hy0QBcuuLsUJ

A direct lie from you. Where is your admission? I bet you claim it was too old so you "forgot" you told COLA about your degree.
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Steve
7/28/2014 3:48:09 PM
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:46:29 +0100, William Poaster wrote:

> HE is an utter fool.

And he is utterly kill-file-able. 

-- 
Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.
Give a man a bank and he can rob the world.
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RonB
7/29/2014 5:07:54 AM
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:15:16 -0500, chrisv wrote:

>>Or as it turns out to be turned off from in most cases.  That long list
>>of distros is just confusion for average users.
> 
> Poor "Lloyd".  Shown to be an idiot with his "freedom doesn't help the
> average user because he's not technical enough" bullshit, he moves the
> goal posts to "freedom doesn't help the average user because it only
> confuses him".

What he meant to say is choice (any choice) is confusing to idiot 
iCultists.

(Subject Line changed to reflect reality.)

-- 
Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.
Give a man a bank and he can rob the world.
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RonB
7/29/2014 5:09:55 AM
On 7/28/14, 10:09 PM, in article lr7ab3$9ht$2@dont-email.me, "RonB"
<ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:15:16 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> 
>>> Or as it turns out to be turned off from in most cases.  That long list
>>> of distros is just confusion for average users.
>> 
>> Poor "Lloyd".  Shown to be an idiot with his "freedom doesn't help the
>> average user because he's not technical enough" bullshit, he moves the
>> goal posts to "freedom doesn't help the average user because it only
>> confuses him".
> 
> What he meant to say is choice (any choice) is confusing to idiot
> iCultists.
> 
> (Subject Line changed to reflect reality.)

It has been now.

Not sure why your imaginary friends have so much problem with choice. Maybe
it is because you use the desktop environment with far less choice than OS X
or Windows. Your imaginary friends, of course, are just a part of you.

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Snit
7/29/2014 5:26:19 AM
On 7/28/2014 8:39 AM, chrisv wrote:
> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
>> I've actually posted many non-troll things here
>> over the years only to be literally attacked when
>> I questioned something as in when I was getting
>> Linux on the Chromebooks.  The minute I said
>> something negative I was suddenly a 'snit'.
>>
>> So you might understand why I might decide to put
>> on the troll hat now and then.  :)
>
> Personally it would not occur to me to spew idiocy and lies, in
> response to being insulted.
>
> I guess I have too much self-respect for that, and I want my words to
> have some weight.


LMFAO!!!!!!

Here are some examples of your "weighty words", turd:

=============================================================================

idiot, stupid, morons and assholes, fucking moron, true stupidity, 
puerile assholery, worthless piece of shit, evil bastards, trolling 
assholes, jackass, dumb bastard, Wintroll circle-jerk, trolls are 
filthy, lying piece of shit, piece of shit, piece of shit, piece of 
shit, what an asshole, fucking assholes, shitty and dishonest 
Linux-haters, prick shit-canned, filthy lying asshole, shit-brained 
arsehole, stupidity of epic proportions, stupid pile of shit, jackass, 
too God-damned stupid, trolling shitwits, stupid, assholery, 
brain-damaged fucktard, piece of shit, drooling retard liar, drooling 
retard liar, stupid piece of shit wannabe dictators, jackass, clueless 
and lying idiot, ignorant ass, Stupid fuckwit, You stepped in your own 
shit, fuckwitted asshole, extremely shitty, lying asshole, trolling 
fuckwit, you stupid asshole, piece of shit, asshole, shitty dishonesty, 
piece of shit, asshole, fuckwit, fuckwit, lying fuckwit, you piece of 
shit, you stupid piece of shit, couple of dishonest little shits, a 
disease infesting the planet, piece of shit and liar, fucktard trolls, 
Windows-loving asshole, shitty, filthy Wintroll, bald-faced liar, you 
piece of shit liar, shitty, useless Linux-haters, you stupid piece of 
shit, piece of shit, Utterly worthless liar, filthy Win troll, lying 
pieces of shit, fricken jackass, worthless lying piece of shit jackass, 
shamelessly lying piece of shit, worthless, shit-brained asshole, piece 
of shit liar, the filthy liar, evil selfish bastards, fucking idiot, 
fucking stupid, ignorant, spews garbage, jackass, idiot asshole, piece 
of shit, stupid piece of shit, trolling fuckwit, piece of shit, lies his 
ass off, vile thing, shitty, liar, ignorant lying piece of shit, vile 
bastard asshole liar, fucking liar, worthless, shameless jackass, 
shitty, piece of shit liar, shameless jackass, filthy lying assholes, 
jackass, cram it up your ass, asshole, piece of shit, filthy, immoral, 
dogshit brains, shitty little freedom-hating dictator wannabee, fucking 
idiot, piece of shit, stupid, ignorant, shameless asshole. Linux-hating 
pieces of shit, fucking, shit, shitty, shitty, shitty, selfish assholes, 
shamelessly dishonest piece of shit, vile lying bastards, filthy liar, 
filthy fucks, fucking assholes, disgusting scumbag, vile filthy mean, 
fuckwit, filthy fucking, liar, trolling fuckwit, piece of shit, filthy 
fuckwit, vile pukes, you shit, vile bastards, filthy fuck, 
mentally-defective bigots disgusting freaks, piece of shit, filthy lying 
bigot, shitty, filthy bigots, trolling fuckwit and shit, vile bigot, 
fuckwit piece of shit disgusting freak"

asshole imbecile, stupid piece of shit, lying, insulting freedom-hating 
prick, stupid lying asshole, shithead, jackass, lying asshole, lying 
asshole, filthy dishonest, sneering assholes, piece of shit liars, 
filthy lies, fuckwit, shitty, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, nasty piece of 
shit liar, asshole, fuckwit, lying asshole, fuckwit, piece of shit, 
assholery, terrible piece of shit, fuckwit, lying asshole, piece of 
shit, piece of shit, stupid piece of shit, piece of shit, piece of shit, 
assholery, jackass, fuckwit, piece of shit, shit, piece of shit, 
fuckwit, asshole, fuckwit, stupid shitty trolls, fuckwit, fuckwit, 
bastard, fucking idiot, piece of shit, lying piece of shit, piece 
ofshit, jackasshole, piece of shit, piece of shit, piece of shit, 
fucking jackass, piece of shit, fuckwit, asshole, fucking idiots, 
asshole, piece of shit, asshole, trolling asshole, lying asshole, 
asshole, piece of shit, fuckwit, fuckwitted, fucking stupid, fuckwit, 
jackass, fuckwit, fuckwit, shitty, piece of shit, drooling fuckwit, 
fuckwit, asshole, fuckwit, asswipe, stupid piece of shit, stupid piece 
of shit, stupid piece of shit, stupid piece of shit fuckwit, jackass, 
stupid lying piece of shit, fuckwit fuckwitted, fucking jackass, 
fuckwit, fuckwit, assholish, fuckwit, fuckwit, piece of shit, 
jackasshole, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit fuckwit, asshole, fuckwit, 
asshole, fuckwits, piece of shit, piece of shit, stupid filthy fuck, 
shitty, fuckwit, fuckwit, asshole, assholes, asshole, shitty, assholes 
shitty, asshole trolls assholes, fuckwit, shitty, shithead fuckwit, 
dumbshit, fucking, asshole, asshole asshole, filthy fucking liars, 
fuckwit, fuckwit, shit, asshole, assholes, bastards, piece of shit, 
fuckwit, jackass, fuckwit, piece of shit, fuckwit fuckwitted fuckwit, 
asshole, trolls jackasses, fuckwit, scumbag, fuckwit, fuckwit, fucking 
kook, piece of shit, piece of shit, piece of shit, fuckwit, piece of 
shit, jackass, trolls shitty, fuckwit, fuckwit, jackass jackass fuckwit, 
stupid fucking liar, piece of shit shitty fuckwitted, piece of shit, 
piece of shit, fuckwit jackass, bastards, jackass, asshole, pissant 
pissant, shitty, shitty, shitty assholery dispshit piece of shit, 
asshole, asshole, asshole, shitty, fucking assholes, fucking asshole, 
shit, piece of shit, piece of shit, worthless twat


"fuckwit, piece of shit, piece of shit, fuckwit, piece of shit, fuckwit,
shitty, assholes, fucking asshole, shitty, asshole, piece of shit,
shitty, fuckwit, shittiness, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuck, asshole,
fucked-in-the-head, shit like the trolls, trolling shit, shit, fuckwit,
  piece of shit, fucking asshole, asshole, piece of shit, piece of shit,
shit, fuckwit, lying asshole, asshole, asshole, lying asshole, fuckwit,
piece of shit, piece of shit, fucking, Microshit, piece of shit,
fuckwits, fuckwit, assholes, fuckwittery, fuckwit, asshole, asshole,
assholes, lying asshole, asshole, asshole, friggen jackass, shitty lying
bigots, shitty lying bigot, worthless fscking asshole, asshole, fuckwit,
fuckwit, fuckwit, stupid fucktard, fuckwit, fuckwit, piece of shit,
piece of shit, fuckwit, fuckwit, asshole, fuckwit, piece of shit,
asshole, piece of shit, asshole, jakass, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit,
fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, piece of shit, jackass, lying
asshole, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, piece of shit, fuckwit, piece of
shit, lying asshole, fucking idiot, asshole, filthy assholes, fucked up,
vile lying bastards, shit, piece of shit, fuckwit, lying asshole,
asshole, asshole, lying asshole, asshole, stupid fucktard, jackass,
asshole, shitty, asshole, asshole, piece of shit, filthy bastards, lying
asshole, filthy bastard, pieces of shit, piece of shit, piece of shit,
asshole, jackass, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, asshole, fuckwit,
fuckwit, piece of shit fuckwit, fuckwit, asshole,  assholes, fuckwit,
shitty, shitty, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, jackass,
  fuckwit, vile bastard, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit
liar, fuckwit liar, fuckwit, piles of lying shit, fuckwit, fuckwit,
fuckwit, fuckwit liar, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit,
piece of shit, fuckwit, piece of shit liar, fuckwit, fuckwit, piece of
shit, piece of shit, fuckwittery, piece of shit, piece of shit, piece of
shit, fuckwit, fuckwit, fucking idiot, assholes, piece of shit, fuckwit,
lying piece of shit, fuckwit, filthy lying bastards, fuckwit, lying
piece of shit asshole, filthy worthless asshole, fuckwit, fuckwit,
fuckwit, fuckwit, cowardly lying piece of shit, fuckwit,
assholes, get it thru your thick fucking skull, evil bastards, asshole,
fuckwit, dumbfucker, shitwits, shitty, fuckwit, piece of shit, fuckwit,
jackass, shit, asshole, filthy lying assholes, shitbags, fuckwit,
shitty, fucking hypocrite, shit, hypocrite asshole, shit, dipshit,
fuckwit, jackasses, stupid piece of shit, fuckwit, clueless lying fuck,
stupid piece of shit, fuckwit, filthy lying jackass, piece of shit,
fuckwits, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuck's sake, shameless jackass, stupid
shitty, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, lying asshole, asshole,
fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, piece of shit, fuckwit, jack-shit, rats ass,
shitty, fuckwit, dumbfucker, jackass, brain-damaged assholes, shitty,
bastards, selfish asshole, shitty, fuckwit, asshole, fuckwit, fuckwit,
fuckwit, piece of shit, fuckwit,  fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit,
fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit, piece of shit, fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit"
=============================================================================

That's the sum total of your "moral and intellectual superiority over 
the trolls"...






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DFS
7/29/2014 1:52:28 PM
On 7/28/2014 11:35 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 7/28/14, 5:45 AM, in article 08hct9945jjn7tedic834492fo09gvsjqg@4ax.com,
> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> ....
>>> Oxygen?  The creep probably breathes methane and uses copper sulfate for
>>> salt.
>>
>> He wants to be the middle guy of the "human centipede", with "DFS" in
>> the front and "Snit" in the rear.
>
> Six minutes before you posted that you posted:
>      -----
>      Personally it would not occur to me to spew idiocy and lies,
>      in response to being insulted.
>      -----
>
> You could not keep your word on it for even 10 minutes! Wow. That is just
> pathetic.


Here you go again, making a personal attack while condemning them out of 
the other side of your mouth.

Your hypocrisy aside, it's a good catch!  turdv is such a miserable 
asshole - it's fun to see his silly lies and idiocy and hypocrisy 
highlighted.



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DFS
7/29/2014 1:53:07 PM
On 7/29/2014 1:09 AM, RonB wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:15:16 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>
>>> Or as it turns out to be turned off from in most cases.  That long list
>>> of distros is just confusion for average users.
>>
>> Poor "Lloyd".  Shown to be an idiot with his "freedom doesn't help the
>> average user because he's not technical enough" bullshit, he moves the
>> goal posts to "freedom doesn't help the average user because it only
>> confuses him".
>
> What he meant to say is choice (any choice) is confusing to idiot
> iCultists.


Says the idiot who claimed "Apple's empire is falling apart, bit by bit."



> (Subject Line changed to reflect reality.)


Subject line restored from RonG's idiocy
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DFS
7/29/2014 2:01:45 PM
On 7/29/14, 6:53 AM, in article lr890m$s5p$6@dont-email.me, "DFS"
<nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

> On 7/28/2014 11:35 AM, Snit wrote:
>> On 7/28/14, 5:45 AM, in article 08hct9945jjn7tedic834492fo09gvsjqg@4ax.com,
>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> ....
>>>> Oxygen?  The creep probably breathes methane and uses copper sulfate for
>>>> salt.
>>> 
>>> He wants to be the middle guy of the "human centipede", with "DFS" in
>>> the front and "Snit" in the rear.
>> 
>> Six minutes before you posted that you posted:
>>      -----
>>      Personally it would not occur to me to spew idiocy and lies,
>>      in response to being insulted.
>>      -----
>> 
>> You could not keep your word on it for even 10 minutes! Wow. That is just
>> pathetic.
> 
> 
> Here you go again, making a personal attack while condemning them out of
> the other side of your mouth.

There is nothing hypocritical about noting the absurdity of *baseless*
attacks while quoting specific baseless attacks and noting how "pathetic"
they are. 

> Your hypocrisy aside, it's a good catch!  turdv is such a miserable
> asshole - it's fun to see his silly lies and idiocy and hypocrisy
> highlighted.

The fact it is a "good catch" is the point - not your silly side issues
where you show you do not get logic. :)


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Snit
7/29/2014 2:35:56 PM
On 7/29/14, 7:01 AM, in article lr89gs$s5p$10@dont-email.me, "DFS"
<nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

> On 7/29/2014 1:09 AM, RonB wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:15:16 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>> 
>>>> Or as it turns out to be turned off from in most cases.  That long list
>>>> of distros is just confusion for average users.
>>> 
>>> Poor "Lloyd".  Shown to be an idiot with his "freedom doesn't help the
>>> average user because he's not technical enough" bullshit, he moves the
>>> goal posts to "freedom doesn't help the average user because it only
>>> confuses him".
>> 
>> What he meant to say is choice (any choice) is confusing to idiot
>> iCultists.
> 
> 
> Says the idiot who claimed "Apple's empire is falling apart, bit by bit."

RonB talks about his imaginary friends all the time. It is just weird.
> 
>> (Subject Line changed to reflect reality.)
> 
> 
> Subject line restored from RonG's idiocy



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Snit
7/29/2014 2:39:29 PM
On 7/29/2014 10:35 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 7/29/14, 6:53 AM, in article lr890m$s5p$6@dont-email.me, "DFS"
> <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> On 7/28/2014 11:35 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 7/28/14, 5:45 AM, in article 08hct9945jjn7tedic834492fo09gvsjqg@4ax.com,
>>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> ....
>>>>> Oxygen?  The creep probably breathes methane and uses copper sulfate for
>>>>> salt.
>>>>
>>>> He wants to be the middle guy of the "human centipede", with "DFS" in
>>>> the front and "Snit" in the rear.
>>>
>>> Six minutes before you posted that you posted:
>>>       -----
>>>       Personally it would not occur to me to spew idiocy and lies,
>>>       in response to being insulted.
>>>       -----
>>>
>>> You could not keep your word on it for even 10 minutes! Wow. That is just
>>> pathetic.
>>
>>
>> Here you go again, making a personal attack while condemning them out of
>> the other side of your mouth.
>
> There is nothing hypocritical about noting the absurdity of *baseless*
> attacks while quoting specific baseless attacks and noting how "pathetic"
> they are.

This reply is another Snit word-twisting specialty: your hypocrisy and 
personal attackes aren't really hypocrisy and personal attacks.  It's 
just you "noting" something, or "quoting" something.



>> Your hypocrisy aside, it's a good catch!  turdv is such a miserable
>> asshole - it's fun to see his silly lies and idiocy and hypocrisy
>> highlighted.
>
> The fact it is a "good catch" is the point - not your silly side issues
> where you show you do not get logic. :)


The "logic" of Snit: make personal attacks while condemning personal 
attacks.

You do both frequently.


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DFS
7/29/2014 2:55:03 PM
On 7/29/14, 7:55 AM, in article lr8ckr$pmd$5@dont-email.me, "DFS"
<nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

> On 7/29/2014 10:35 AM, Snit wrote:
>> On 7/29/14, 6:53 AM, in article lr890m$s5p$6@dont-email.me, "DFS"
>> <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 7/28/2014 11:35 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 7/28/14, 5:45 AM, in article 08hct9945jjn7tedic834492fo09gvsjqg@4ax.com,
>>>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ....
>>>>>> Oxygen?  The creep probably breathes methane and uses copper sulfate for
>>>>>> salt.
>>>>> 
>>>>> He wants to be the middle guy of the "human centipede", with "DFS" in
>>>>> the front and "Snit" in the rear.
>>>> 
>>>> Six minutes before you posted that you posted:
>>>>       -----
>>>>       Personally it would not occur to me to spew idiocy and lies,
>>>>       in response to being insulted.
>>>>       -----
>>>> 
>>>> You could not keep your word on it for even 10 minutes! Wow. That is just
>>>> pathetic.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here you go again, making a personal attack while condemning them out of
>>> the other side of your mouth.
>> 
>> There is nothing hypocritical about noting the absurdity of *baseless*
>> attacks while quoting specific baseless attacks and noting how "pathetic"
>> they are.
> 
> This reply is another Snit word-twisting specialty: your hypocrisy and
> personal attackes aren't really hypocrisy and personal attacks.  It's
> just you "noting" something, or "quoting" something.

Incorrect. I am very specific with what comment of his is "pathetic". I do
not sink to making homophobic insults or saying his mother bred with a horse
and other idiotic things some in COLA do (and you back... showing *your*
hypocrisy).

Comes down to you desperately looking to find an example of my doing what is
so common in COLA - and failing so you grasp at straws. Really shows how I
simply do not sink to that level and you find that bothersome. As I have
noted, you and others want me to sink to your level so you can feel better
about yourselves. You are providing a great example here. Thanks!
 
>>> Your hypocrisy aside, it's a good catch!  turdv is such a miserable
>>> asshole - it's fun to see his silly lies and idiocy and hypocrisy
>>> highlighted.
>> 
>> The fact it is a "good catch" is the point - not your silly side issues
>> where you show you do not get logic. :)
> 
> The "logic" of Snit: make personal attacks while condemning personal
> attacks.
> 
> You do both frequently.

Nope. I note that an *action* is "pathetic" (in this case) or speak of how
RonB is rather immature to speak of his imaginary friends so often (which is
true). I do not make the type of attacks which are so common in COLA:
personal attacks against where I make up stories about someone's home life
or sexuality or religion or parentage or the like. I simply am not willing
to sink to that level (well, not often anyway...).


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Snit
7/29/2014 3:12:31 PM
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:55:03 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 7/29/2014 10:35 AM, Snit wrote:
>> On 7/29/14, 6:53 AM, in article lr890m$s5p$6@dont-email.me, "DFS"
>> <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/28/2014 11:35 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 7/28/14, 5:45 AM, in article 08hct9945jjn7tedic834492fo09gvsjqg@4ax.com,
>>>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ....
>>>>>> Oxygen?  The creep probably breathes methane and uses copper sulfate for
>>>>>> salt.
>>>>>
>>>>> He wants to be the middle guy of the "human centipede", with "DFS" in
>>>>> the front and "Snit" in the rear.
>>>>
>>>> Six minutes before you posted that you posted:
>>>>       -----
>>>>       Personally it would not occur to me to spew idiocy and lies,
>>>>       in response to being insulted.
>>>>       -----
>>>>
>>>> You could not keep your word on it for even 10 minutes! Wow. That is just
>>>> pathetic.
>>>
>>>
>>> Here you go again, making a personal attack while condemning them out of
>>> the other side of your mouth.
>>
>> There is nothing hypocritical about noting the absurdity of *baseless*
>> attacks while quoting specific baseless attacks and noting how "pathetic"
>> they are.
> 
> This reply is another Snit word-twisting specialty: your hypocrisy and 
> personal attackes aren't really hypocrisy and personal attacks.  It's 
> just you "noting" something, or "quoting" something.
> 
> 
> 
>>> Your hypocrisy aside, it's a good catch!  turdv is such a miserable
>>> asshole - it's fun to see his silly lies and idiocy and hypocrisy
>>> highlighted.
>>
>> The fact it is a "good catch" is the point - not your silly side issues
>> where you show you do not get logic. :)
> 
> 
> The "logic" of Snit: make personal attacks while condemning personal 
> attacks.
> 
> You do both frequently.

How so?
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Tomas
7/29/2014 3:26:48 PM
On 7/29/14, 8:26 AM, in article vtvdsn1gpg9u.3pcudaab2wus.dlg@40tude.net,
"Tomas" <tgif9fri@numo.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:55:03 -0400, DFS wrote:
> 
>> On 7/29/2014 10:35 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 7/29/14, 6:53 AM, in article lr890m$s5p$6@dont-email.me, "DFS"
>>> <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 7/28/2014 11:35 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 7/28/14, 5:45 AM, in article
>>>>> 08hct9945jjn7tedic834492fo09gvsjqg@4ax.com,
>>>>> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ....
>>>>>>> Oxygen?  The creep probably breathes methane and uses copper sulfate for
>>>>>>> salt.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He wants to be the middle guy of the "human centipede", with "DFS" in
>>>>>> the front and "Snit" in the rear.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Six minutes before you posted that you posted:
>>>>>       -----
>>>>>       Personally it would not occur to me to spew idiocy and lies,
>>>>>       in response to being insulted.
>>>>>       -----
>>>>> 
>>>>> You could not keep your word on it for even 10 minutes! Wow. That is just
>>>>> pathetic.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Here you go again, making a personal attack while condemning them out of
>>>> the other side of your mouth.
>>> 
>>> There is nothing hypocritical about noting the absurdity of *baseless*
>>> attacks while quoting specific baseless attacks and noting how "pathetic"
>>> they are.
>> 
>> This reply is another Snit word-twisting specialty: your hypocrisy and
>> personal attackes aren't really hypocrisy and personal attacks.  It's
>> just you "noting" something, or "quoting" something.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> Your hypocrisy aside, it's a good catch!  turdv is such a miserable
>>>> asshole - it's fun to see his silly lies and idiocy and hypocrisy
>>>> highlighted.
>>> 
>>> The fact it is a "good catch" is the point - not your silly side issues
>>> where you show you do not get logic. :)
>> 
>> 
>> The "logic" of Snit: make personal attacks while condemning personal
>> attacks.
>> 
>> You do both frequently.
> 
> How so?

I note the immaturity of RonB speaking to his imaginary friends or how
pathetic a completely hypocritical comment is and DFS tries to equate this
with my mocking someone with homophobic rants or claiming someone's mother
slept with a horse.

I simply do not sink to that level... or at worst, do so only very rarely.


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Snit
7/29/2014 3:32:01 PM
On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> GreyCloud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Soupe du Jour wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-07-25, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>    -  Responsiveness and speed.  Let's face, Linux generally has the
>>>>       speed and responsiveness these days.  Windows suffers from its
>>>>       single
>>>>       kind of filesystem and its all-encompassing Registry.  And its
>>>>       Update system is amazingly slow.
>>> 
>>> I am always amazed at how long Microsoft Updates take and how often
>>> they require a reboot. They've had all these years to improve this and
>>> it still isn't as good as on Debian, RH, or Arch.
>>
>> So?  Today I updated Scientific Linux and it took a while and it also 
>> requested a reboot.  Not all updates require it tho due to not having a 
>> registry.
>
> Debian and CentOS never request reboots.  Obviously, if a new kernel comes
> in, and you don't have Ksplice enabled, you should ultimately reboot.  But
> you can put it off, since that's about the only part of Linux that might
> require a reboot.  The rest at worst require restarting the service, which
> the installer will do for you.
>

In addition, GreyClod is way off base if he's trying to claim that Linux
updates take more than a fraction of the time that updates to Windows
do. He was probably on the one hand comparing one patch on Windows to,
on the other hand, an upgrade from SL 6.5 to the Development Release of
SL 7. 


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Soupe
8/1/2014 3:30:30 PM
On 2014-07-28, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>>> Says it all. Just kill googlegroups, & cut off the moron's oxygen.
>>
>>Oxygen?  The creep probably breathes methane and uses copper sulfate for
>>salt.
>
> He wants to be the middle guy of the "human centipede", with "DFS" in
> the front and "Snit" in the rear.
>

It's been a while since I read either of their posts, but judging by
their behaviour of a couple of years ago, Snit spews a far greater
volume of shit than DFS does. In addition, DFS is the greater asshole.
So I'd say that Snit is the head and DFS the tail.

Or perhaps all the trolls are a large Ouroboros? They certainly all
recycle the same tired old shit, over and over again. One feeds upon
another's shit, and then the next troll gets a blast that he then
releases in cola...

Fecalfish is in there too. It's one of the worst at repeating the same
old crap, for years and years.

It kind of makes you wonder if maybe they're all just teams at
Microsoft. The Flatfishing Group, the Snitting Group, all with VPs that
report directly to Bill Gates. (Or to his bunghole.)

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Soupe
8/1/2014 3:44:47 PM
Soupe du Jour wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> <snipped>

Snipped, but it did have me laughing :-)

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<Xavvy> haha
<Xavvy> ok, it's him :P
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Chris
8/1/2014 4:15:57 PM
On 07/24/2014 06:17 PM, jlungo33@gmail.com wrote:

[...]
>
> Welcome to Linux and the world of Linux and Open Source Software.
> Get used to it or move on.
> Most people move on. Rather quickly in fact.

Bye bye.  Have a happy life, and don't worry about those Linux boogey 
men any more.

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Nobody
8/6/2014 12:00:55 PM
On 07/24/2014 06:31 PM, Tomas wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:17:51 -0700 (PDT), jlungo33@gmail.com wrote:

[cross postings snipped]

>> Let's be honest, compared to the offerings of OSX and Windows,

Don't worry yourself about it.  Just go where you were meant to be, and 
make sure you have a big wad of cash with you before you do.  Or is the 
Apple Store still only taking credit cards?


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Nobody
8/6/2014 12:05:36 PM
Nobody wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 07/24/2014 06:17 PM, jlungo33@gmail.com wrote:
>
> [...]
>>
>> Welcome to Linux and the world of Linux and Open Source Software.
>> Get used to it or move on.
>> Most people move on. Rather quickly in fact.
>
> Bye bye.  Have a happy life, and don't worry about those Linux boogey 
> men any more.

Is "jbungle" unable to move on from COLA?

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Chris
8/6/2014 12:07:15 PM
This is the flibby-dabby-dee service of the BBC, & here is a photograph
of Chris Ahlstrom saying:

> Nobody wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 07/24/2014 06:17 PM, jlungo33@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>>
>>> Welcome to Linux and the world of Linux and Open Source Software.
>>> Get used to it or move on.
>>> Most people move on. Rather quickly in fact.
>>
>> Bye bye.  Have a happy life, and don't worry about those Linux boogey 
>> men any more.
>
> Is "jbungle" unable to move on from COLA?

References: googlegroups.com

The troll will probably shif nyms & be back.

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William
8/6/2014 12:41:40 PM
In article <sSoEv.205943$844.6595@fx14.iad>,
 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 07/24/2014 06:31 PM, Tomas wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:17:51 -0700 (PDT), jlungo33@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> [cross postings snipped]
> 
> >> Let's be honest, compared to the offerings of OSX and Windows,
> 
> Don't worry yourself about it.  Just go where you were meant to be, and 
> make sure you have a big wad of cash with you before you do.  Or is the 
> Apple Store still only taking credit cards?

Actually, accepting credit cards is better for the consumer and worse 
for the company. Why? 

1) Most credit card companies take a percentage of each charge as their 
fee. 2-4%, IIRC.

2) If there is something wrong with the item, the consumer can call 
their credit card company and dispute the charge. With cash, that is 
impossible, since the company has already been paid.
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David
8/6/2014 1:49:12 PM
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