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Looking for used MAC system to learn MACs

Hello,
   I am looking for recommendations for a used MAC system that I can
use to learn MACs.  I have used Unix and Linux for the past 20 years,
but I'd like to understand a little more about how they work.  I have
been looking at some used G4 and G5 systems, but not sure if these
will be lame ducks.  I would like to kick around at the prompt level
to see how different it is from a normal Unix system , but I'd like to
learn some of the apps and gui stuff too so I don't look like an idiot
to friends.  Any recommendations or help is welcomed.  Thanks.

Snoopy.
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snoopy_ (23)
4/28/2008 5:43:05 PM
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<de47faa0-31c3-4c8f-b428-58cac4c0b3d6@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
<"snoopy_@excite.com"> wrote:

> Hello,
>    I am looking for recommendations for a used MAC system that I can
> use to learn MACs.  I have used Unix and Linux for the past 20 years,
> but I'd like to understand a little more about how they work.  I have
> been looking at some used G4 and G5 systems, but not sure if these
> will be lame ducks.  I would like to kick around at the prompt level
> to see how different it is from a normal Unix system , but I'd like to
> learn some of the apps and gui stuff too so I don't look like an idiot
> to friends.  Any recommendations or help is welcomed.  Thanks.

i'd suggest a refurbished intel based mac mini to get your feet wet. 
apple has them from time to time for as little as $400ish.  despite
nearly all software being universal and can run on either cpu, i
wouldn't bother with a powerpc mac at this point unless it was cheap.
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nospam59 (11089)
4/28/2008 6:43:36 PM
In article 
<de47faa0-31c3-4c8f-b428-58cac4c0b3d6@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
 "snoopy_@excite.com" <snoopy_@excite.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>    I am looking for recommendations for a used MAC system that I can
> use to learn MACs.

First thing to learn: It's "Mac" (short for Macintosh) and not "MAC" 
(which has to do either with networking, cosmetics or EFT depending on 
your interests). There are, sadly, some people who will get judgmental 
about the "wrong" capitalization, largely because historically it's been 
a mark of people who were ignorant anti-Mac rabblerousers.

> I have used Unix and Linux for the past 20 years,
> but I'd like to understand a little more about how they work.  I have
> been looking at some used G4 and G5 systems, but not sure if these
> will be lame ducks.  I would like to kick around at the prompt level
> to see how different it is from a normal Unix system , but I'd like to
> learn some of the apps and gui stuff too so I don't look like an idiot
> to friends.  Any recommendations or help is welcomed.  Thanks.

If you're really looking just to get some exposure as cheaply as 
possible, look for a G4 mini on eBay. The performance is quite poor in 
comparison to modern machines but for that reason it should be quite 
inexpensive and has the added benefit of taking up very little space 
alongside the day-to-day machine you already have and presumably will be 
keeping. If your current display has multiple inputs you're probably 
good to go. Even though it's comparatively slow it's still, for now, a 
reasonably usable machine as long as it's got enough memory in it.

The writing does seem to be on the wall for the extant PPC machines, 
though. The slowest Intel-based Mac ever - the 1.5GHz Core Solo mini - 
holds its own against a 2x1.8GHz G5 tower, and that tower beats the 
virtual pants off of the fastest G4 Mac (which the minis never were). So 
if you really want a viable but cost-effective long-term machine for 
more than basic productivity tasks, you're probably looking at 
yesterday's iMac.
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uce3 (3721)
4/28/2008 7:03:37 PM
In article 
<de47faa0-31c3-4c8f-b428-58cac4c0b3d6@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
 "snoopy_@excite.com" <snoopy_@excite.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>    I am looking for recommendations for a used MAC system that I can
> use to learn MACs.  I have used Unix and Linux for the past 20 years,
> but I'd like to understand a little more about how they work.  I have
> been looking at some used G4 and G5 systems, but not sure if these
> will be lame ducks.  I would like to kick around at the prompt level
> to see how different it is from a normal Unix system , but I'd like to
> learn some of the apps and gui stuff too so I don't look like an idiot
> to friends.  Any recommendations or help is welcomed.  Thanks.
> 
> Snoopy.

Look around here: <http://lowendmac.com/>
Cheers.

-- 
ROT-13 to send an e-mail: 1abercyl@urgarg.ay
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0kevi4 (39)
4/29/2008 6:58:46 AM
In article 
<de47faa0-31c3-4c8f-b428-58cac4c0b3d6@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
 "snoopy_@excite.com" <snoopy_@excite.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>    I am looking for recommendations for a used MAC system that I can
> use to learn MACs.  I have used Unix and Linux for the past 20 years,
> but I'd like to understand a little more about how they work.  I have
> been looking at some used G4 and G5 systems, but not sure if these
> will be lame ducks.  I would like to kick around at the prompt level
> to see how different it is from a normal Unix system , but I'd like to
> learn some of the apps and gui stuff too so I don't look like an idiot
> to friends.  Any recommendations or help is welcomed.  Thanks.
> 
> Snoopy.

I got my Feet Wet with OSX, by buying a Intel based Mac Mini, as I have
been a Mac Person since the Original 128K Mac, but just didn't want to
leave MacOS 9.x.x, where everything was well understood, and a mature 
technology. After a year of playing with my Mini connected to my 40"
LCD Tv, with a Bluetooth Keyboard and Mouse, from my Lazyboy, I made
the move to OSX 10.4.11 on my G4 WindTunnel, and bought the wife an
Intel iMac. Now OSX is the bomb, and I only use Classic for a VERY few 
Legacy Applications that have MacOS 9.x.x specific Network Issues.

-- 
Bruce in alaska
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fast (50)
4/29/2008 6:02:57 PM
Gregory Weston wrote:
> if you really want a viable but cost-effective long-term machine for 
> more than basic productivity tasks, you're probably looking at 
> yesterday's iMac.

But if you really want no more than "a used MAC system
that I can use to learn MACs" then I'd suggest a 500-600
MHz iMac on eBay for less than $100 (and that's including
the shipping).

Yes, you can get ripped off, but you'll do OK if you
pay attention to _who_ you're bidding to (and watch out
for sneaky ones who try to sell a broken machine while
wording the description so it's not obvious).

-- 
Wes Groleau

   "In the field of language teaching, Method A is the logical
    contradiction of Method B: if the assumptions from which
    A claims to be derived are correct, then B cannot work,
    and vice versa.  Yet one colleague is getting excellent
    results with A and another is getting comparable results
    with B.  How is this possible?"
                                       -- Earl W. Stevick
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4/30/2008 2:18:08 AM
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